soc.veterans

On 31 Mar, 15:15, Wolfie wrote:
> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On 31 Mar, 13:57, Wolfie wrote:
> >> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On 30 Mar, 23:14, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> On 30 Mar, 21:04, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 17:25, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 16:14, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 14:02, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maxden...@lycos.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 12:40 am, "Ben H. Cramer" wrot=
e:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article contributed by a fan in Finnnnnnnnlannnnnd.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did the Allies and Jews lie about the Holocaust?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German warti=
me concentration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camp where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish -- were=
reportedly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is w=
idely regarded as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The camp's =
horrific reputation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot, however, be reconciled with the facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Occam's Razor: The simplest explanations tend to be correc=
t.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you can produce some evidence that explains how and=
why the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allies would manufacture evidence like photos of thousands=
of corpses in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mass graves and the method by which they managed to recrui=
t emaciated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actors to produce film of what appears to be concentration=
camp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> survivors, I'm going to figure that these constitute valid=
evidence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporting the Holocaust.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to admit though that with ground searching radar,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dna testing and cadaver sniffing dogs, very few bodies have=
been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> found and that the ability of the Nazis to totally oblitera=
te
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 million people is unfeasible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Very few? =A0Have you seen the photos of the mass graves? Th=
e 6 million
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> figure is quite believable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So how many bodies have been discovered in mass graves? You k=
now,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the kind of crime scene investigation that we normally do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> at sites in Bosnia, Ruanda or even Katyn Forest.'
> >>>>>>>>>>> When you have a n area the size of a football pitch and sevear=
l meters
> >>>>>>>>>>> deep filled with charred human remains it can get a bit tricky=
working
> >>>>>>>>>>> out how many people are actually there.
> >>>>>>>>>> Not really. Forensic science is quite adept at that.
> >>>>>>>>>> You dig up the entire place and start counting and matching bon=
es
> >>>>>>>>>> and take DNA samples from everything you find. Simple.
> >>>>>>>>> Here's an abstract of an investigation of 61 people from 6 "mass=
"
> >>>>>>>>> graves, a year and a half after the event:
> >>>>>>>> 61 people? Are you serious? We're talking about up
> >>>>>>>> to 6 million aren't we?
> >>>>>>>> What's this "61" crap?
> >>>>>>> I was giving an example of just how difficult it is to investigate=

> >>>>>>> mass graves using "DNA samples" (amongst myriad other things)
> >>>>>>> Something you asserted was "simple" and "routine".
> >>>>>>> And that was with a grave that wasn't mixed up, cremated remains..=

> >>>>> Well? Abandoned this angle, have you?
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.citeulike.org/group/2486/article/1048991
> >>>>>>>>> You'll notice that 35 have been identified. Do you think it woud=
l be
> >>>>>>>>> easier, or harder, to do the same with huge mass graves full of
> >>>>>>>>> cremated remains, presumably mixed to a degree, some 60 years af=
ter
> >>>>>>>>> the event?
> >>>>>>>>> That's without addressing the complaints of people who would reg=
ard it
> >>>>>>>>> as desecration..
> >>>>>>> See?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Nazis kept quite acurate records of the progress at the =
death camps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you calling them liars?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not calling anyone a liar. I am simply asking questions t=
hat appear
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to irritate the hell out of some who then give me incomplete =
or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> false answers that don't make sense.
> >>>>>>>>>>> LOL... How ironic. When YOU get asked questions, you merely da=
nce
> >>>>>>>>>>> around them and throw insults.
> >>>>>>>>>>> For example, your little hissy fit ywhen you wer asked if you =
dounbted
> >>>>>>>>>>> e,.g. Roma/Sinti deaths too or if it was just the Jewish victi=
ms you
> >>>>>>>>>>> were skeptical about.
> >>>>>>>>>> I told you my answer - but you're too ignorant to understand it=

> >>>>>>>>>> because you don't really know the Roma history all that well.
> >>>>>>>>>> I'll try it again - see if your or your friends have found some=
one
> >>>>>>>>>> who knows the answer.
> >>>>>>>>>> "Schade um die Zigeunerlager" (Pity about the Gypsey camp/compo=
und.)
> >>>>>>>>>> Who said that and under what circumstances. I'll give you a clu=
e,
> >>>>>>>>>> he was on a horse at the time.
> >>>>>>>>> A quote from another person cannot answer the question addressed=
to
> >>>>>>>>> you which only requires a simple yes or no
> >>>>>>>> My answer is the answer to your question - you're just too
> >>>>>>>> ignorant or stupid to interpret it. Any luck with who said it????=

> >>>>>>>> Another clue - first initial "J".
> >>>>>>> A simple yes or no is all that is required, wolfy! I agree I am
> >>>>>>> ignorant of the origin of the quote. So what? It doesn't answer th=
e
> >>>>>>> question :-)
> >>>>>> Sure it does -
> >>>>> No, it doesn't. Unless his name is "yes" or "no".
> >>>>>> his second initial was "M" :O
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Wolfie
> >>>>> Super!
> >>>> Still no clue eh? No idea what I was on about?
> >>> Nope. And of course, no clue as to how a *name* will answer a question=

> >>> taht requires a "yes " or a "no" either.
> >> The name you idiot, is Joseph Mengele.
>
> > i.e. it doesn't answer the question "Do you doubt the Roma/Sinti
> > deaths too, or just eth Jewish ones".
> > As I have pointed out for over a week now...
>
> That's because you're too stupid or ignorant to know the context.

LOL! Regardless of context, the answer to the question "do you doubt
the Sinti/Roma deaths too, or just the Jewish ones" cannot be
rationally answered with the words "Josef Mengele".

Keep dancing, wolfy...

THanks for the help
your pal
/PK






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> >>>> You need to read more about the Holocaust.
> >>> Why? I know enough to know you're lying. e.g. your claim about "huge
> >>> holes" in the roofs of teh Kremas.
> >>>> Are you a racist? Do you hate Germans?
> >>> "Lika barn leka b=E4st"
> >> Really?
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> > Joseph Mengele
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> >> So you support the murder of Folke Bernadotte do you?
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> > Joseph Mengele
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