Group: soc.veterans
From: parris_k@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Did the Allies and Jews lie about the Holocaust?

On 31 Mar, 15:13, Wolfie wrote:
> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On 31 Mar, 14:00, Wolfie wrote:
> >> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On 30 Mar, 23:14, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> On 30 Mar, 21:04, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 17:25, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 16:14, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 14:02, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maxden...@lycos.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 12:40 am, "Ben H. Cramer" wrot=
e:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article contributed by a fan in Finnnnnnnnlannnnnd.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did the Allies and Jews lie about the Holocaust?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German warti=
me concentration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camp where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish -- were=
reportedly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is w=
idely regarded as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The camp's =
horrific reputation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot, however, be reconciled with the facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Occam's Razor: The simplest explanations tend to be correc=
t.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you can produce some evidence that explains how and=
why the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allies would manufacture evidence like photos of thousands=
of corpses in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mass graves and the method by which they managed to recrui=
t emaciated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actors to produce film of what appears to be concentration=
camp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> survivors, I'm going to figure that these constitute valid=
evidence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporting the Holocaust.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to admit though that with ground searching radar,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dna testing and cadaver sniffing dogs, very few bodies have=
been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> found and that the ability of the Nazis to totally oblitera=
te
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 million people is unfeasible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Very few? =A0Have you seen the photos of the mass graves? Th=
e 6 million
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> figure is quite believable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So how many bodies have been discovered in mass graves? You k=
now,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the kind of crime scene investigation that we normally do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> at sites in Bosnia, Ruanda or even Katyn Forest.'
> >>>>>>>>>>> When you have a n area the size of a football pitch and sevear=
l meters
> >>>>>>>>>>> deep filled with charred human remains it can get a bit tricky=
working
> >>>>>>>>>>> out how many people are actually there.
> >>>>>>>>>> Not really. Forensic science is quite adept at that.
> >>>>>>>>>> You dig up the entire place and start counting and matching bon=
es
> >>>>>>>>>> and take DNA samples from everything you find. Simple.
> >>>>>>>>> Here's an abstract of an investigation of 61 people from 6 "mass=
"
> >>>>>>>>> graves, a year and a half after the event:
> >>>>>>>> 61 people? Are you serious? We're talking about up
> >>>>>>>> to 6 million aren't we?
> >>>>>>>> What's this "61" crap?
> >>>>>>> I was giving an example of just how difficult it is to investigate=

> >>>>>>> mass graves using "DNA samples" (amongst myriad other things)
> >>>>>>> Something you asserted was "simple" and "routine".
> >>>>>>> And that was with a grave that wasn't mixed up, cremated remains..=

> >>>>> Well? Abandoned this angle, have you?
> >>> Well? Still convinced it's a "simple" job for the DNA experts?
> >>> Or are you hoping this will go away? :-)
> >> No, I'm waiting to hear more tripe on why you don't
> >> want to know who is criminally buried in mass graves
> >> like even those in Ruanda do.
>
> > You're lying again - I merely pointed out that investigating a mass
> > grave of mixed, cremated remains is a rather daunting prospect. You,
> > on the other hand, believe it is "simple"
>
> Check with Kathy Reichs,

Except YOU asserted it was "simple", not her.

> she made a career out of it, wrote books and even has a TV series about ca=
lled Bones.

Are you getting all your data from TV, by the way? Hint - "Bones"
isn't a documentary...

THanks for the help!
Your pal
/PK











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