soc.veterans

parris_k@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 31 Mar, 13:59, Wolfie wrote:
>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On 30 Mar, 23:15, Wolfie wrote:
>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On 30 Mar, 21:04, Wolfie wrote:
>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 17:25, Wolfie wrote:
>>>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 16:14, Wolfie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 14:02, Wolfie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolfie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maxden...@lycos.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 12:40 am, "Ben H. Cramer" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article contributed by a fan in Finnnnnnnnlannnnnd.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did the Allies and Jews lie about the Holocaust?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime concentration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camp where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish -- were reportedly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is widely regarded as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The camp's horrific reputation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot, however, be reconciled with the facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Occam's Razor: The simplest explanations tend to be correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you can produce some evidence that explains how and why the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allies would manufacture evidence like photos of thousands of corpses in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mass graves and the method by which they managed to recruit emaciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actors to produce film of what appears to be concentration camp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> survivors, I'm going to figure that these constitute valid evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporting the Holocaust.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to admit though that with ground searching radar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dna testing and cadaver sniffing dogs, very few bodies have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found and that the ability of the Nazis to totally obliterate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 million people is unfeasible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very few? Have you seen the photos of the mass graves? The 6 million
>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure is quite believable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So how many bodies have been discovered in mass graves? You know,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the kind of crime scene investigation that we normally do
>>>>>>>>>>>> at sites in Bosnia, Ruanda or even Katyn Forest.'
>>>>>>>>>>> When you have a n area the size of a football pitch and sevearl meters
>>>>>>>>>>> deep filled with charred human remains it can get a bit tricky working
>>>>>>>>>>> out how many people are actually there.
>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Forensic science is quite adept at that.
>>>>>>>>>> You dig up the entire place and start counting and matching bones
>>>>>>>>>> and take DNA samples from everything you find. Simple.
>>>>>>>>> Here's an abstract of an investigation of 61 people from 6 "mass"
>>>>>>>>> graves, a year and a half after the event:
>>>>>>>> 61 people? Are you serious? We're talking about up
>>>>>>>> to 6 million aren't we?
>>>>>>>> What's this "61" crap?
>>>>>>> I was giving an example of just how difficult it is to investigate
>>>>>>> mass graves using "DNA samples" (amongst myriad other things)
>>>>>>> Something you asserted was "simple" and "routine".
>>>>>>> And that was with a grave that wasn't mixed up, cremated remains..
>>>>>>>>> http://www.citeulike.org/group/2486/article/1048991
>>>>>>>>> You'll notice that 35 have been identified. Do you think it woudl be
>>>>>>>>> easier, or harder, to do the same with huge mass graves full of
>>>>>>>>> cremated remains, presumably mixed to a degree, some 60 years after
>>>>>>>>> the event?
>>>>>>>>> That's without addressing the complaints of people who would regard it
>>>>>>>>> as desecration..
>>>>>>> See?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Nazis kept quite acurate records of the progress at the death camps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you calling them liars?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not calling anyone a liar. I am simply asking questions that appear
>>>>>>>>>>>> to irritate the hell out of some who then give me incomplete or
>>>>>>>>>>>> false answers that don't make sense.
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL... How ironic. When YOU get asked questions, you merely dance
>>>>>>>>>>> around them and throw insults.
>>>>>>>>>>> For example, your little hissy fit ywhen you wer asked if you dounbted
>>>>>>>>>>> e,.g. Roma/Sinti deaths too or if it was just the Jewish victims you
>>>>>>>>>>> were skeptical about.
>>>>>>>>>> I told you my answer - but you're too ignorant to understand it
>>>>>>>>>> because you don't really know the Roma history all that well.
>>>>>>>>>> I'll try it again - see if your or your friends have found someone
>>>>>>>>>> who knows the answer.
>>>>>>>>>> "Schade um die Zigeunerlager" (Pity about the Gypsey camp/compound.)
>>>>>>>>>> Who said that and under what circumstances. I'll give you a clue,
>>>>>>>>>> he was on a horse at the time.
>>>>>>>>> A quote from another person cannot answer the question addressed to
>>>>>>>>> you which only requires a simple yes or no
>>>>>>>> My answer is the answer to your question - you're just too
>>>>>>>> ignorant or stupid to interpret it. Any luck with who said it????
>>>>>>>> Another clue - first initial "J".
>>>>>>> A simple yes or no is all that is required, wolfy! I agree I am
>>>>>>> ignorant of the origin of the quote. So what? It doesn't answer the
>>>>>>> question :-)
>>>>>> Sure it does - his second initial was "M" :O
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Wolfie
>>>>> BTW.Why are you so scared of addresing the question as to why a morgue
>>>>> woul have a gas-tight door (with peephole!) and showers, connected or
>>>>> not, I wonder?
>>>> People were gassed and simultaneously cremated while showering?
>>> Cremated?! Where on the inventory does it say there was an oven in the
>>> "gassing cellar" as well?
>> Where does it say there were fake shower heads?
>
> It says it in the absence of plans of connecting them to a water
> supply.

So if there were no plans there was no water supply.
Gee, you're dumber than a bag of hammers when you get down to it.
Do tell me about Folke Bernadotte though. You do support
his murder don't you?

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Wolfie