soc.veterans

On 31 Mar, 13:57, Wolfie wrote:
> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On 30 Mar, 23:14, Wolfie wrote:
> >> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On 30 Mar, 21:04, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> On 30 Mar, 17:25, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 16:14, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 14:02, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> maxden...@lycos.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 12:40 am, "Ben H. Cramer" wrote:=

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article contributed by a fan in Finnnnnnnnlannnnnd.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did the Allies and Jews lie about the Holocaust?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime=
concentration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camp where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish -- were r=
eportedly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is wid=
ely regarded as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The camp's ho=
rrific reputation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot, however, be reconciled with the facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Occam's Razor: The simplest explanations tend to be correct.=

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you can produce some evidence that explains how and w=
hy the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Allies would manufacture evidence like photos of thousands o=
f corpses in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mass graves and the method by which they managed to recruit =
emaciated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> actors to produce film of what appears to be concentration c=
amp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> survivors, I'm going to figure that these constitute valid e=
vidence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> supporting the Holocaust.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You have to admit though that with ground searching radar,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> dna testing and cadaver sniffing dogs, very few bodies have b=
een
> >>>>>>>>>>>> found and that the ability of the Nazis to totally obliterate=

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6 million people is unfeasible.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Very few? =A0Have you seen the photos of the mass graves? The =
6 million
> >>>>>>>>>>> figure is quite believable.
> >>>>>>>>>> So how many bodies have been discovered in mass graves? You kno=
w,
> >>>>>>>>>> the kind of crime scene investigation that we normally do
> >>>>>>>>>> at sites in Bosnia, Ruanda or even Katyn Forest.'
> >>>>>>>>> When you have a n area the size of a football pitch and sevearl =
meters
> >>>>>>>>> deep filled with charred human remains it can get a bit tricky w=
orking
> >>>>>>>>> out how many people are actually there.
> >>>>>>>> Not really. Forensic science is quite adept at that.
> >>>>>>>> You dig up the entire place and start counting and matching bones=

> >>>>>>>> and take DNA samples from everything you find. Simple.
> >>>>>>> Here's an abstract of an investigation of 61 people from 6 "mass"
> >>>>>>> graves, a year and a half after the event:
> >>>>>> 61 people? Are you serious? We're talking about up
> >>>>>> to 6 million aren't we?
> >>>>>> What's this "61" crap?
> >>>>> I was giving an example of just how difficult it is to investigate
> >>>>> mass graves using "DNA samples" (amongst myriad other things)
> >>>>> Something you asserted was "simple" and "routine".
> >>>>> And that was with a grave that wasn't mixed up, cremated remains..
> >>> Well? Abandoned this angle, have you?
> >>>>>>>http://www.citeulike.org/group/2486/article/1048991
> >>>>>>> You'll notice that 35 have been identified. Do you think it woudl =
be
> >>>>>>> easier, or harder, to do the same with huge mass graves full of
> >>>>>>> cremated remains, presumably mixed to a degree, some 60 years afte=
r
> >>>>>>> the event?
> >>>>>>> That's without addressing the complaints of people who would regar=
d it
> >>>>>>> as desecration..
> >>>>> See?
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Nazis kept quite acurate records of the progress at the de=
ath camps.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you calling them liars?
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not calling anyone a liar. I am simply asking questions tha=
t appear
> >>>>>>>>>> to irritate the hell out of some who then give me incomplete or=

> >>>>>>>>>> false answers that don't make sense.
> >>>>>>>>> LOL... How ironic. When YOU get asked questions, you merely danc=
e
> >>>>>>>>> around them and throw insults.
> >>>>>>>>> For example, your little hissy fit ywhen you wer asked if you do=
unbted
> >>>>>>>>> e,.g. Roma/Sinti deaths too or if it was just the Jewish victims=
you
> >>>>>>>>> were skeptical about.
> >>>>>>>> I told you my answer - but you're too ignorant to understand it
> >>>>>>>> because you don't really know the Roma history all that well.
> >>>>>>>> I'll try it again - see if your or your friends have found someon=
e
> >>>>>>>> who knows the answer.
> >>>>>>>> "Schade um die Zigeunerlager" (Pity about the Gypsey camp/compoun=
d.)
> >>>>>>>> Who said that and under what circumstances. I'll give you a clue,=

> >>>>>>>> he was on a horse at the time.
> >>>>>>> A quote from another person cannot answer the question addressed t=
o
> >>>>>>> you which only requires a simple yes or no
> >>>>>> My answer is the answer to your question - you're just too
> >>>>>> ignorant or stupid to interpret it. Any luck with who said it????
> >>>>>> Another clue - first initial "J".
> >>>>> A simple yes or no is all that is required, wolfy! I agree I am
> >>>>> ignorant of the origin of the quote. So what? It doesn't answer the
> >>>>> question :-)
> >>>> Sure it does -
> >>> No, it doesn't. Unless his name is "yes" or "no".
> >>>> his second initial was "M" :O
> >>>> --
> >>>> Wolfie
> >>> Super!
> >> Still no clue eh? No idea what I was on about?
>
> > Nope. And of course, no clue as to how a *name* will answer a question
> > taht requires a "yes " or a "no" either.
>
> The name you idiot, is Joseph Mengele.

i.e. it doesn't answer the question "Do you doubt the Roma/Sinti
deaths too, or just eth Jewish ones".
As I have pointed out for over a week now...


>
>
>
> >> You need to read more about the Holocaust.
>
> > Why? I know enough to know you're lying. e.g. your claim about "huge
> > holes" in the roofs of teh Kremas.
>
> >> Are you a racist? Do you hate Germans?
>
> > "Lika barn leka b=E4st"
>
> Really?

Joseph Mengele

> So you support the murder of Folke Bernadotte do you?

Joseph Mengele
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