soc.veterans

On 31 Mar, 13:59, Wolfie wrote:
> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On 30 Mar, 23:15, Wolfie wrote:
> >> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On 30 Mar, 21:04, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> On 30 Mar, 17:25, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 16:14, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>> parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar, 14:02, Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Wolfie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> maxden...@lycos.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 12:40 am, "Ben H. Cramer" wrote:=

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article contributed by a fan in Finnnnnnnnlannnnnd.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did the Allies and Jews lie about the Holocaust?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime=
concentration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camp where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish -- were r=
eportedly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is wid=
ely regarded as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The camp's ho=
rrific reputation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot, however, be reconciled with the facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Occam's Razor: The simplest explanations tend to be correct.=

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you can produce some evidence that explains how and w=
hy the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Allies would manufacture evidence like photos of thousands o=
f corpses in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mass graves and the method by which they managed to recruit =
emaciated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> actors to produce film of what appears to be concentration c=
amp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> survivors, I'm going to figure that these constitute valid e=
vidence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> supporting the Holocaust.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You have to admit though that with ground searching radar,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> dna testing and cadaver sniffing dogs, very few bodies have b=
een
> >>>>>>>>>>>> found and that the ability of the Nazis to totally obliterate=

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6 million people is unfeasible.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Very few? =A0Have you seen the photos of the mass graves? The =
6 million
> >>>>>>>>>>> figure is quite believable.
> >>>>>>>>>> So how many bodies have been discovered in mass graves? You kno=
w,
> >>>>>>>>>> the kind of crime scene investigation that we normally do
> >>>>>>>>>> at sites in Bosnia, Ruanda or even Katyn Forest.'
> >>>>>>>>> When you have a n area the size of a football pitch and sevearl =
meters
> >>>>>>>>> deep filled with charred human remains it can get a bit tricky w=
orking
> >>>>>>>>> out how many people are actually there.
> >>>>>>>> Not really. Forensic science is quite adept at that.
> >>>>>>>> You dig up the entire place and start counting and matching bones=

> >>>>>>>> and take DNA samples from everything you find. Simple.
> >>>>>>> Here's an abstract of an investigation of 61 people from 6 "mass"
> >>>>>>> graves, a year and a half after the event:
> >>>>>> 61 people? Are you serious? We're talking about up
> >>>>>> to 6 million aren't we?
> >>>>>> What's this "61" crap?
> >>>>> I was giving an example of just how difficult it is to investigate
> >>>>> mass graves using "DNA samples" (amongst myriad other things)
> >>>>> Something you asserted was "simple" and "routine".
> >>>>> And that was with a grave that wasn't mixed up, cremated remains..
> >>>>>>>http://www.citeulike.org/group/2486/article/1048991
> >>>>>>> You'll notice that 35 have been identified. Do you think it woudl =
be
> >>>>>>> easier, or harder, to do the same with huge mass graves full of
> >>>>>>> cremated remains, presumably mixed to a degree, some 60 years afte=
r
> >>>>>>> the event?
> >>>>>>> That's without addressing the complaints of people who would regar=
d it
> >>>>>>> as desecration..
> >>>>> See?
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Nazis kept quite acurate records of the progress at the de=
ath camps.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you calling them liars?
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not calling anyone a liar. I am simply asking questions tha=
t appear
> >>>>>>>>>> to irritate the hell out of some who then give me incomplete or=

> >>>>>>>>>> false answers that don't make sense.
> >>>>>>>>> LOL... How ironic. When YOU get asked questions, you merely danc=
e
> >>>>>>>>> around them and throw insults.
> >>>>>>>>> For example, your little hissy fit ywhen you wer asked if you do=
unbted
> >>>>>>>>> e,.g. Roma/Sinti deaths too or if it was just the Jewish victims=
you
> >>>>>>>>> were skeptical about.
> >>>>>>>> I told you my answer - but you're too ignorant to understand it
> >>>>>>>> because you don't really know the Roma history all that well.
> >>>>>>>> I'll try it again - see if your or your friends have found someon=
e
> >>>>>>>> who knows the answer.
> >>>>>>>> "Schade um die Zigeunerlager" (Pity about the Gypsey camp/compoun=
d.)
> >>>>>>>> Who said that and under what circumstances. I'll give you a clue,=

> >>>>>>>> he was on a horse at the time.
> >>>>>>> A quote from another person cannot answer the question addressed t=
o
> >>>>>>> you which only requires a simple yes or no
> >>>>>> My answer is the answer to your question - you're just too
> >>>>>> ignorant or stupid to interpret it. Any luck with who said it????
> >>>>>> Another clue - first initial "J".
> >>>>> A simple yes or no is all that is required, wolfy! I agree I am
> >>>>> ignorant of the origin of the quote. So what? It doesn't answer the
> >>>>> question :-)
> >>>> Sure it does - his second initial was "M" :O
> >>>> --
> >>>> Wolfie
> >>> BTW.Why are you so scared of addresing the question as to why a morgue=

> >>> woul have a gas-tight door (with peephole!) and showers, connected or
> >>> not, I wonder?
> >> People were gassed and simultaneously cremated while showering?
>
> > Cremated?! Where on the inventory does it say there was an oven in the
> > "gassing cellar" as well?
>
> Where does it say there were fake shower heads?

It says it in the absence of plans of connecting them to a water
supply.

But, as usual, you chase your own tail in your effort to avoid the
question - what was the gas-tight door (with peephole!) for?

If it helps, you can assume the showers are connected to the water
supply.

I'm looking forward to your next evasion with some amusement.

THanks for the help!
your pal
/PK