On Mar 12, 4:03=A0pm, Tom Roberts
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > [...]
>
> You need to learn how to read more accurately. There is nothing in the
> quote from Carlip or the quote from Einstein that contradicts anything I
> said.
>
> This is subtle, and your simple-minded approach of extracting quotes out
> of context is woefully inadequate. One must UNDERSTAND what is written.
No Roberts Roberts this is not subtle at all - the problem is simple
but camouflaged by your criminal brothers. You have already realized
that Einstein's 1911 equation c'=3Dc(1+V/c^2) is consistent with the
gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/4ac7=
92905c8c439c?
Now Roberts Roberts you should just draw the implications of this
consistency. In particular Roberts Roberts, you should demonstrate
that, if the speed of light obeys Einstein's 1911 equation c'=3Dc(1+V/
c^2) and does not obey the equation c'=3Dc according to which the speed
of light is constant in a gravitational field, then there is NO
GRAVITATIONAL TIME DILATION. Can you perform this deduction Roberts
Roberts? Note Roberts Roberts that you should demonstrate the validity
of an IF-CLAUSE, that is, you do not need to know which equation -
c'=3Dc(1+V/c^2) or c'=3Dc - is correct.
Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com