sci.physics.particle

On Mar 29, 1:17=A0am, frankli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Previously, I had asked about how you could probe whether a sea of
> positron/electron pairs existed and why there was no missing
> antimatter because the antimatter is bound up in the positron/electron
> pairs. Remarks by PD got me to read the one book I had about quarks
> "The Hunting of the Quark" by Michael Riordan. In this book, I found
> the story of the discovery of the J/psi particle which had to be
> either the decay product of a positron and electron or the result of a
> collision of positrion and electron. They did the experiment both ways
> and came up with a particle that has a mass of about 3.1GeV.
>
> Now, this experiment is interesting to me because by my thinking,
> these positron/electron pairs ought to be everywhere. During particle
> collisions, these are actually the source of the mass that is
> seemingly created during such collisions as they are pulled out of the
> aether. Now if you were doing an experiment involving tracing back a
> pair of positrons/electrons to its parent source and if these
> positrons/electrons exist everywhere, then it directly follows that
> you should see a huge spike of detected particles if you were looking
> at the exact mass of the aether particle. On either side of the aether
> particle mass, you would see nothing.
>
> The discovery of the J/psi particle produced just such an incredible
> peak in the data. Like a skyscraper sitting in the middle of a desert,
> the experimenters thought there had been an error since they had not
> seen anything like it. From the book it appeared this spike was far
> larger and narrower than any other particle that had ever been
> observed. There was no explanation for why it peaked this way, but if
> space is filled with positron/electron pairs, it is this sea of
> particles that immediately springs out. The other particles do have to
> be produced by a laborious and chance process of creation, whereas the
> positrion/electron pairs are there for the taking.
>
> To answer my own original question, this does appear to be a way to
> directly verify the existence of a positron/electron aether. It's
> existence must have a large impact on the kinds and quantities of
> particles that can be knocked out of it. It is critically important
> this be an experiment that only involves positrions and electrons
> since this would be the only way to discriminate a background positron/
> electron field. Now that we know what we are looking for, one could
> design experiments to directly confirm or deny the existence of a
> positron/electron pair field.
>
> In reading further, it is concluded by conventional science that the J/
> Psi is evidence of the charmed quark and its antiparticle. This
> appears to be based around the assumption that the J/Psi is composed
> of 2 objects orbiting one another like an electron orbiting a proton.
> All kinds of impressive predictions were made and confirmed. There was
> a prediction of a naked charm particle. Something was found at 1.87
> GeV versus a prediction of 1.95GeV - but apparently that was close
> enough to close the books on this particle. All very impressive, but
> if the assumption was one particle orbiting another, this could also
> have easily happened with non-fractional integer charged positrons and
> electrons along with all the other impressive predictions. The quark
> explaination also does does nothing to explain why the J/Psi peaked in
> such an unusual manner. If the J/Psi was just another result of the
> same kind of collisions as other particles, there should have been
> nothing special about it's peak.
>
> Now if the J/Psi is really due to a brief orbiting of an electron
> around a positrion, then the 3.1GeV isn't the mass of the aether
> particle, but it is not unreasonable to think that in a sea of highly
> energetic positron/electron pairs, that quite a few may become
> separated and then would get into this slightly stable orbital pair.
> Once again, the electron/positron sea would provide a wealth of
> opportunities for these orbital pairs to form. This does leave the
> question about positron/electron pairs emanating directly from the
> aether with an energy in the 1GeV range (normal energy for positrion/
> electron annihilation). I would think the peak here would be
> absolutely enormous - but maybe these were tossed out since scientists
> knew exactly what these were and ignored them?
>
> So here is a way to experimentally directly confirm the existence of a
> positron/electron aether in particle acclerator experiments. All other
> aether detection experiments rely on detecting motion through the
> aether and if the aether isn't moving, this test isn't going to work
> and you can never rule out the existence of the aether based on such
> tests. However, this is a direct test of the particles of the aether
> and experiment seems to bear out the existence of such an aether with
> an unusual spike in the matter spectrum.
>
> -fhuaether

Thanks for trying. You are missing some additional information.

- Richter found the psi by looking in electron-positron collisions.
Ting found the J by looking in proton-proton collisions. I'm quite
certain Riordan mentioned that. You can also find this at
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1976/index.html

- The presence of the charmed quark was a prediction of a model that
explained the observed interaction rates among particles containing u,
d, and s quarks. The presence of a charmed quark implied a bound charm-
anticharm meson which would be *unexplainable* by any other bound
state of electrons-positrons (positronium) or quark-antiquark combos
of u, d, or s quarks. The J/psi was what satisfied this *new*
prediction of an otherwise unaccountable bound state.

- The decay products of the J/psi are electrons and positrons only 6%
of the time. Another 6% of the time, its muons and antimuons, which is
quite distinct from electrons and positrons. Most of the time, the J/
psi decays into hadrons. This is possibly something that Riordan
neglected to mention in his coffee table book but is readily available
at http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/m070.pdf

- The J/psi resonance at 3.1 MeV is not the only charm-anticharm bound
state. As well as the psi' (3689 MeV) and the psi'' (3770 MeV), there
are a whole raft of other bound states (also viewable at
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/) that are *only* explainable by
combinations of two objects of mass about 1.5 MeV, and which are *not*
explainable by a combinations of objects of mass 0.511 MeV. Here,
spectroscopy and in particular the ratios of the masses of these bound
states are what's important.

- In addition to this, there are numerous other resonances which decay
into electrons and positrons: neutral pions, the upsilon, the Z. All
of these have much different properties from the others, and none of
them are explainable in terms of bound states of electrons and
positrons, though an effort has been made.

PD