Group: sci.physics.particle
From: "Y.Porat"
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: Space Travel

On Feb 26, 3:23=A0am, Sam Wormley wrote:
> James Colvier wrote:
> > On Feb 25, 4:38 pm, Uncle Al wrote:
> >> James Colvier wrote:
>
> >>> I was wondering if anybody knew anything about the possibility of
> >>> traveling faster than the speed of light.
> >> Superluminal transportation of information violates causality. =A0The
> >> universe does not tolerate contradiction. =A0If no information is
> >> involved transport can be instantaneous over any distance - Bell's
> >> inequality.
>
> > The way I read that, it seems contradictory. It seems to say that
> > going faster than the speed of light violates causality, and goes on
> > to say that therefore, it can't be done. Then it says "If no
> > information is involved" (I don't entirely understand that...) then
> > anything can essentially "teleport".
>
> >> The informed traveler uses a stardrive that goes back in time as it
> >> goes forward in space. =A0One can then get from anywhere to anywhere in=

> >> a twinkling at 15 mph. =A0Even Newport Beach, CA won't give you a
> >> traffic citation for that. =A0(16 mph and you are constabulary
> >> "expectation of productivity" toast.)
>
> > This I really do not understand. First off, what do you mean when you
> > refer to "the informed traveler"? This seems hypothetical, so what is
> > that doing there? And if it was going back in time, it wouldn't be 15
> > mph, it would be a negative speed (theoretically) correct?
>
> >>> I studied E=3Dmc2, but if I
> >>> understand it correctly, that doesn't actually state that it isn't
> >>> possible. If it were possible, what would it require, and how would it=

> >>> operate?
> >> Doing it isn't the problem. =A0Going superluminal is the problem - the
> >> mathematical singularity of division by zero at lightspeed for a
> >> massed particle. =A0The Third Law of Thermodynamics is enforced by the
> >> same singularity, but negative temperatures kelvin are trivially
> >> accessed by population inversions: =A0NMR, medical MRI, EPR, masers,
> >> lasers, adiabatic demagnetization of paramagnetic salts in cryogenic
> >> refrigeration.
>
> > I don't doubt the amount of true facts in this post, but I am having
> > trouble deciphering it. Could you some of the lesser minds like me
> > understand what exactly the barrier is?
>
> >> One goes the long way around, from +(infinity) to -(infinity) and back
> >> up the other side thereby avoiding the singularity. =A0The alert reader=

> >> is invited to erect a like paradigm and reduce to reduce to practice
> >> for propagation of a massed particle.
>
> > -James Colvier
>
> =A0 =A0Nature is observed to have a cosmic speed limit... only
> =A0 =A0zero mass particle travel at the speed of light... Mass
> =A0 =A0particle are always observed to travel < c .
>
> =A0 =A0Why? Good question!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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he zero mass is in your skull

the poton is the only mass that can tarvel at c
it is an exception case to the rule that
no mass can travel at c
2
if the photon movement is in a helix movement
while the hellix can have any radius
(now listen carefully and think dont be a parrot)

so
in that case
THE MOVEMENT **IN **THAT HELLIX CAN BE
GREATED THAN c !!

(the movement of any step of the hellix is at c
along its axis
but the circumference movement in the hellix
is bigger than the movement along its axis !
anfd if the radius of that hellix is enormously big
than the tangent movenet along the circumference
(the path of the hellix) is bigger than c !!!!!
i would guess even qualitatively:
it will be :

2 pai *c !!!

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27.2.2008
Y.Porat
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