sci.physics.particle

On Mar 25, 10:39=A0am, dlzc wrote:
> Dear frankli...:
>
> On Mar 25, 10:00=A0am, frankli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> ...
>
> > Another thing you would have to accept is that a
> > positron/electron aether exists.
>
> Define this. =A0Please describe how free electrons can survive in it for
> any finite distance.
>
Thank you for your responses, I think your objections can be easily
explained.

You must understand that electrons can only react with free
positrions. Once an electron/positron have collided and combined, they
produce a neutrally charged particle very similar to a neutron. This
neutron like particle does not strongly interact with free electrons.
It would no more react with a free electron than a water molecule
would react with a free hydrogen atom.


> > - And no Uncle Al, tests of Lorentz invariance,
> > MMC and others do not disprove the existence of
> > an aether. All of these experiments work by
> > detecting a movement of the aether wind.
>
> Stellar aberration disproves a "displaceable" aether. =A0This only
> leaves the Lorentz aether.

Stellar aberation is easily explained by an static unmoving aether
that the Earth moves through. (How does relativity explain stellar
aberation???) Now, you assume that since the aether must be static in
space, that it must also be the same on Earth, so we should feel the
full force of the aether wind. Wrong - this is a completely wrong and
unncessary assumption. The aether is entrained around the Earth, just
like the atmosphere and we drag around our own little shell of aether
around space. As star light comes to the Earth, it is modified by the
aether through stellar abberation, but when it hits the thin shell of
entrained aether around the earth, it has no effect at all on
abberation. So any Earth based experiments can measure a small amount
of aether wind, while outside of Earth's gravitational field, light
experiences the much greater aether wind of the universe.

>
> > If the aether is restrained by gravity like the normal
> > atomosphere, then there would be little to detect.
>
> Obviated by observation. =A0The only aether that survives experiment
> displaces *not at all* with the passage of matter. =A0Matter must
> propagate through it just like light. =A0Or there is no such
> unobservable aether.

Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Matter does
propogate through aether and it is responsible for inertia. See my
main TOE (towards the bottom where I explain the origin of mass)at:
http://www.geocities.com/franklinhu/theory.html

>
> > This is why I had earlier asked how you could
> > directly detect a positron/electron aether.
>
> All free electrons (such as used in a CRT) would be scattered
> abnormally.

Why would they be scattered? The neutron-like aether particles would
not strongly interact with free electrons since we know that neutrons
themselves do not interact strongly. All of space would be filled with
these particles like a fluid, so there would be nothing like a
billiard ball collision that could occur. Electrons in a CRT would not
be scattered anymore than air would scatter a bullet.

>
> > I also thought that we could easily reproduce the
> > initial big bang event by taking a matter and
> > antimatter beams, slowing them down so the
> > reactions are only due to matter/antimatter
> > anhilliation and just observe what particles
> > come out of the reaction.
>
> Done. =A0Photons. =A0Photons are not expected to have existed at the
> instant of the Big Bang, since gravitation was expected to congeal
> before EM (of which photons are composed / represent).
>
> > I would predict you see the vast majority
> > resulting in gamma rays, but a tiny amount of
> > protons would be produced and an even tinier
> > amount of anti-protons would be produced.
>
> Right, except for the protons and anti-protons.

Do you really know that somebody has tried looking for protons in this
manner? I have done some web searches and there are hints that protons
are produced in accelerator experiments. These protons could be
exceedingly rare like finding W and Z particles.

Tell you what, answer me this question, in any accelerator experiments
involving only positrion/electron collisions, has a proton never been
observed in the results? I don't want you to guess or presume, please
tell me if you know for a fact.

>
> > These should be easy enough to detect due to
> > their mass.
>
> And charge.
Well, that might be a bit difficult since you have all those positrons
with the exact same charge flying about in the environment.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I will carefully consider any
responses you have.

>
> David A. Smith