sci.physics.particle

On Apr 6, 12:49=A0pm, "Y.Porat" wrote:
> On Apr 5, 10:58=A0am, Kumar wrote:
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> > > let me tell you that i am the last one on that planet
> > > that is ready to substitute mass by anything
> > > fo rme
> > > **no mass - no eal physics **!!!
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> > > fo rme it is
> > > kilogram =A0meter =A0second =A0 =A0-- is physics
> > > you have to consder that
> > > a centripetal force is not dome by some mysterious
> > > basic entities
> > > it is done by more **basic* physical entities like
> > > mass movement
> > > fo rme energy is mass in movement
> > > it is not ghosts in movement
> > > and forces are created only by mass collissions
> > > not by spititualistic ghosts behavious
> > > in shorty:
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> > > 'No mass no real physics
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> > > isnt that not simple ??
> > > why look for vague complicated =A0systems ??
> > > (thoug i am noty in principle against creative
> > > innovative ideas ...but it must be somehow convinsive .)
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> > > ATB
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> > I have not considered & mentioned Gravitational force(GF) by a
> > mystrious entity(except prime force if there). Instead of mass, I am
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> there i sno force without motion and mass
> and collission of mass
> ----------> just considering motion in and of a mass/body as a creater/med=
iator of
> > GF.
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> ok that is my oppinion as well !!

When we say GF is dependant on mass & distance, can't be incomplete in
view GF can also be dependant on density(volume & mass)? As such,
should volume of mass also be not relevant? If we consider motion is
related to GF, whether particles in denser sunstance will not have
lower freedom of motion?

Pls tell me more about collission related to force.
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> =A0Mass may also be dependant on motion. Say for example, if we tie a
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> > mass/object to a string at one end and a weighing scale on other end
> > and if we rotate. Weighing scale will so progressive increase in
> > weight =A0of that Mass . If we leave it, it will fall quickly on earth
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> i am not sure i understood your example
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> but please note
> if you exsrt force by changing the innitial position
> of the system
> you exerted force
> the same as if you accelerate the mass
> and while aceleration the mass the force needed is bigger
> not the mass becoming bigger
> it is not
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> F =3D gamma m a^2
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> it is
> F/gamma =A0=3D ma^2 (mremeins constant )!
Means, GF can also be infuluenced by external forces.
> ------------> that if we just through it. Do all these don't indicate that=

> > gravitational force can be dependant on motion & motion can also be
> > dependant on other fundamental forces.
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> motioncan be eternal without any force involved
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> > For me, there may not be anything hidden, mysterious or supernatural,
> > but it can be yet unknown in science.-
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> i agree withthat
> yet =A0my suggestion is the 'Circlon '(:-)
Circlon?
> ATB
> Y.Porat
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