sci.physics.electromag

On Apr 6, 4:48=A0am, Benj wrote:
> On Apr 6, 1:44 am, "FrediFizzx" wrote:
>
> > "According to the modern view the elementary particles (electrons,
> > neutrinos, quarks, etc.) are excitations of some more fundamental medium=

> > called the quantum vacuum. =A0This is the new ether of the 21st century.=

> > The electromagnetic and gravitational fields, as well as the fields
> > transferring the weak and the strong interactions, all represent
> > different types of collective motion of the quantum vacuum."
>
> Actually this doesn't make much sense either! =A0I don't mean the
> existence of some medium which is the basis of the four basic
> interactions, but rather the name "quantum vacuum". =A0It is obvious
> that since it represents properties of space, it cannot be a "void" or
> a "vacuum". =A0It should properly be called the "quantum aether" to
> eliminate the misleading name. =A0But establishment physics is SO set on
> denying the existence of classical aether that they spew the "vacuum"
> dogma even in the face of irrefutable evidence that space is filled
> with some kind of interesting substance. =A0

Same as with the so-called 'free space'.

> Which raises and even MORE
> interesting question: If space is filled with Quantum Aether, is it
> somehow possible to create a "hole" in that aether which would
> actually BE a "true" vacuum or void? In other words a space devoid of
> all properties (including the four interactions).

I am starting to think that matter pops up where there is too little
or less dense, as if it were Nature fighting against fragmentation,
giving rise to objects like Seyferts and Quasars where it is less
dense and black holes where there is too much.

"The particle can only appear as a limited region in space in which
the field strength or the energy density are particularly high..." ---
Albert Einstein

The way I see it, what keeps a whirlpool rotating is space tension
(which is where the stress-energy tensor comes from).

--
Laurent


>
> > Most likely we just don't know what all the quantum objects are yet. =A0=
Or
> > their possible interactional configurations. =A0Hopefully we will get so=
me
> > more clues after the LHC has been running for awhile.
>
> Well, provided it doesn't open a black hole and the earth gets sucked
> into it...