Group: humanities.philosophy.objectivism
From: Gordon Sollars
Date: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: On color: For you Non-believers

In article <4f05b067-a038-46f6-b542-199cea8fd9b4
@m71g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, fredweiss@papertig.com says...
> On Apr 7, 8:38 am, Gordon Sollars wrote:
>
> > Doesn't a dog know his master? You can use "know" in place of many
> > words - "aware", "recognize", "understand", etc. - without doing
> > violence to the English language.
>
> Except when you use "know" to mean "not know" as in "I know but I am
> not certain of it", e.g a conjecture. That does violence to the
> English language.

Sometimes tough measures are required.

> > We say that a person knows how to ride a bicycle or play the piano.
>
> When they actually do know how. Doesn't it do violence to the language
> if you say that they know how, but in fact they don't?

It does no violence - you could be wrong about it.
...
> > ...Now, Ken likes to
> > argue that knowledge is not belief, because knowledge has some special
> > property that transforms it out of the category of belief altogether.
>
> You mean the "special property" of truth - and your certainty of it?

Except that this does not explain why a belief cannot be true and
certain.

--
Gordon

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