Group: humanities.philosophy.objectivism
From: Gordon Sollars
Date: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: On color: For you Non-believers

In article <61607271-2bbc-4a64-982a-4bcff9ed578a@
59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, rumin8@ix.netcom.com says...

> I don't know if any exist but if they do, then you would say
> that they had expectations. Okay.

OK.

> Of course, the dog won't go after the ball until AFTER it has
> had the relevant perceptions. So once again we're left with
> why you consider THAT expectation? How is that any
> different than the plant responding to its stimulus, without
> any expectation?

In the hypothetical we agreed on, the plant *does* have an expectation.
Expectations have preconditions, but I don't know enough about the hypo
to say what they are. Since you don't even know if such plants exist,
it's a little hard for us to go any further.

Since you want to claim that a human being who moves the wrong way when
he sees a head fake is not a case of him expecting the other player to
move in the direction of his head, we seem to be at an impasse. I take
that to be a clear case of expectation, and to explain why the dog also
has an expectation.

--
Gordon

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