On Apr 4, 8:13 am, Jim Klein
> On Apr 3, 10:45 pm, Gordon Sollars
>
> > I think you are saying, if it is a fact that I am hearing a car start,
> > then "I am hearing a car start" is true. That seems uncontroversial to
> > me.
>
> Sure, but then you take the same shapes of the words in sand,
> and say those are likewise true, uncontroversially no doubt.
>
> I controverse.
Why should it make a difference whether the words are recorded in
sand, as ink on paper, or as phosphors or lighted LCDs on a computer
monitor?