Group: humanities.philosophy.objectivism
From: Potroast
Date: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Islamic center recently victim of American terrorist firebombing - send the troops

On Feb 24, 6:48 pm, Bill C
wrote:
> "Potroast" wrote in message
>
> news:8c4cd1fc-0832-4e02-95ea-af99c8697b45@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 23, 9:10 pm, Bill C
> >> There have been a few incidents where some goof ball Muslim shot up LAX,
> >> killed a few people at a shopping mall or flew a private plane into a
> >> Tampa
> >> skyscraper, and they got very limited coverage as acts of terrorism.
> >> There
> >> was certainly no "long line up of politicians up to the highest levels of
> >> government waiting to be photographed and voice their outrage" as you
> >> suggest. You may have even been one of the many that didn't know of the
> >> Islamist connections.
>
> > Check your facts
>
> Learn to read.
> I said limited coverage as "acts of terrorism". Even the Tampa story you
> referenced just calls him a "high school student", not an OBL sympathizer.
> BTW, here's the other incident of a Muslim going nuts with no reference to
> terrorism. Something our bigoted media forgot to hype and inspire a "racist"
> "long line up of politicians up to the highest levels of government waiting
> to be photographed and voice their
> outrage":http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54286
>
> > Try to make all the excuses you want for it but obviously there a
> > double standard...
>
> Evasive psychobabble... It's you who wants a "double standard", excusing
> spectacular deadly attacks by those potentially following a movement that
> declared war and killed 7000 of us (and hundreds of thousands in the Middle
> East) as deserving coverage comparable to arson by a couple of racist
> skin-heads.

> > In addition the US media generally avoids stories about the history
> > of Saddam getting into power, the history of the Shah and Savak in
> > Iran, the history of what the Palestinians have had to endure under
>
> Okay, since you obviously want to change the subject here, I'll take that as
> a pathetic concession that you realize that your head's up your ass on the
> first.

How is this "Changing the subject"? I'm just pointing out another
example of how mainstream US media sources gloss over their own bad
decisions in the region.



> >> ...The other is that
> >> this white supremacist fire bombing was not conducted in the middle of a
> >> protracted bloody war declared on us by white supremacists, representing
> >> their capacity to project power onto our shores, rather than because
> >> we're a
> >> bunch of hate-filled, islamophobe bigots (like some
> >> perspective-challenged
> >> fool here thinks).
>
> > Oists's aren't hate-filled Islamophobes? Let me refer you to Fred's
> > reply to me when I asked him to define a moderate Muslim.
> > Sure you don't hate the "dirty jews" and "niggers" anymore....you just
> > hate the dirty "Muslims" and "sand-nigggers" now. If not please define
> > a moderate Muslim because I am still waiting to hear an Oist define
> > one.
>
> It must suck when you see what a freaking bigot you are in misapplying that
> label to the American media that you have to pretend we were talking about
> Fred. So unless you can show how Fred or some other HPO extremist is
> representative the American Media, you can't effectively hide behind him to
> support your blame America first idiocy.
>
> Bill Carson

You are making all sorts of inaccurate extrapolations and putting
words in my mouth. (stereotypes seems to be the way your brain works I
guess) Just RTFM please.

To refresh from the start.....I do think mainstream American media
bias is very real (at least when it comes to the middle east) and I
did provide some examples and sources. I also did say I didn't think
it was intentional (more of a overly sensitive issue)... nor did I
suggest all Americans are extremists. (not to mention on many
occasions I have stated I don't hate America even though I direct a
great deal of criticism as the current government)

Many Oists do appear to be have some stereotype of a raging Muslim
suicide bomber in their heads. While this does exist, (mostly in
countries that the US has become militarily involved in) they only
make up a small proportion of the billion plus muslims in the world.
Furthermore Oist appear to be advocating the "preemptive" murder of
hundreds of millions of Muslims. (aka attack)

Am I wrong to think this? Please feel to correct me if so.

If not......before you start preaching about bigotry to others....
I recommend you look up the word in a few dictionaries to see what it
actually means (along with the word tolerance) Forgive me for thinking
that some dude that stays silent while guys like Peikoff and Brooke
seem to be scheming to murder millions of Muslims....doesn't take the
subject of tolerance too seriously.



















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