alt.energy.renewable

Erdemal wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>> Erdemal wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>> danny burstein wrote:
>>>>> Hatchback writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Diesels have always been a tough sell to US consumers because of
>>>>>> engine
>>>>>> noise, cold weather starting, smoke, odor, vibration, and lower power
>>>>>> but anyone who has driven, even the current version of a VW TDI,
>>>>>> knows
>>>>>> there has been major improvement in all these areas. Buyers are
>>>>>> realizing that the fuel savings payback is 8 years for a hybrid
>>>>>> and only
>>>>>> 2 for a diesel. Some reports suggest that diesel sales will outpace
>>>>>> hybrid sales by 2012.
>>>>> Are you looking at just the gallons used or are you taking
>>>>> the different prices of diesel vs. gasoline into account?
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally speaking (with lots and lots of variation) diesel
>>>>> fuel is 10 to 15 percent more expensive than gasoline.
>>>> Not in Europe. Diesel and gasoline are about the same price.
>>> Not in your Europe, in my Europe Gasoline is 1.30€/l and diesel
>>> is 1.05 €/l (LPG is even cheaper ?? 0.30 €/l).
>>
>> In the UK diesel is a couple of pence more expensive than petrol
>> (gasoline).
>> Apparently this is because the UK has insufficient refining capacity
>> dedicated
>> to diesel and a lot of it has to be imported.
>
> AFAIK the difference is only due to different 'accise tax' amount ???
> BTW LPG is 0.59 €/l (not 0.30 as I wrote in previous message).
>
> How can you ask people to buy cars with a lower MPG

*higher* MPG (we talk about l/100km : liter per 100 kilometer,
not MPG :)

> when others
> use personal 747 with their own airfield, heat huge outdoor pools
> or greenhouses in winter, sail huge boats for leisure, live in
> 200 rooms castles (sometime more than one :) ... ?
>
> Corollary, how can you forbid someone owning big stuff in
> a 'free' world ?
>
> I have no answer ...

Erdy