alt.energy.renewable

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:38:42 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
>news:d6e792c9-190b-4e5d-a64b-dec830e7df13@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>On Mar 4, 10:29 am, "daestrom"
>wrote:
>...
>> Thermodynamics explains *very well* exactly how heat pumps work. But it
>> would appear you know *very little* about thermodynamics so you can't tell
>> when you're wrong.
>...
>
>I see that your strategy is to bit me on the terminology, not on the
>merit. Obviously, in spite of your refusal to understand how things do
>work, you still managed to notice that I am not a native English
>speaker - and you take an advantage of this situation. But this write-
>up is NOT about the terminology, but about the real possibility which
>was just revealed, namely that in fact we can build a perpetual motion
>flywheel.
>
>Well, if we forget about the terminology, and get into the merit of
>this matter, then whatever name you attach to what the heat pump does,
>it still turns out that e.g. a heat pump consumes electrical energy
>worth e.g. one dollar, and produces the amount of heat which would be
>worth of let say 3 dollars of electrical energy - if the same heat is
>produced by a heater working on electrical resistance. So whether you
>give to the the outcome of heat pumps work the term "efficiency", or
>any other term, still their outpur is over 100% of their imput. Thus,
>if we could master the way of propelling such heat pumps with the
>thermal energy, instead of electricty, these pumps would not only work
>for free, but would also generate for free an excess of thermal
>energy. And this is the merit of the entire matter. There are
>phenomena, which according to principles that I outlined at the other
>thread (
>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/f43b7ee2d9d8e837/ecabc492dd893a64#ecabc492dd893a64
>) someone intensely tries to hide, but which (the phenomena) are able
>to provide basis for constructing perpetual motion devices. The effect
>which I am describiong on this web page, and which you try to
>misleadingly name with other terms than the "Coriolis effect", is just
>one mongst such processes that are able to yield over 100% efficiency.
>So human civilisatioon should do everything in its capabilities to
>research these phenomena, instead of discouraging everyone from
>looking at them more carefuly. So let us ask again the question which
>I already asked at the thread "
>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/f43b7ee2d9d8e837/ecabc492dd893a64#ecabc492dd893a64
>", namely: who pays you guys for making water out of brains of these
>ones who participate in this discussion group?
>
>
>Your misunderstanding of basic physics is monumental. Please feel free to throw
>your life savings into these ideas. You will never see your money again.
>
>Things just don't work the way you think they will.
>
>

Indded they dont.
For a good laugh go here.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

Its somewhat sad the amount of effort that people put in to trying to
build things that simply havnt no chance of working.

Im somewhat surprised though that no one has yet suggested using giant

Crookes Radiometers to generate electricity.