-> We all know that.......again..."We are not on about cheating here".
Then what are we on about? I don't believe that perpetual motion
machines are possible, so any claim that one exists *must* be
fraudulent. That's why, if anyone brought such a machine to me and
suggested I should invest in it, I would insist on dismantling it to
find how it really worked. You seem to think that dismantling is
unnecessary. I hope you don't lose too much money!
dow