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On Mar 28, 4:00 pm, "00BNZ" <00...@dooooooooodoooooo.com> wrote:
> "Fran" wrote in message
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> news:bd85d4d2-afba-49a9-a623-0b140664e25b@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 28, 11:54 am, "00BNZ" <00...@dooooooooodoooooo.com> wrote:
> > "Fran" wrote in message
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> >news:1e6c1c89-8f0a-4413-b595-0af28ebb45c0@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 27, 4:00 pm, Cato wrote:> On Mar 27,
> > 1:47 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
> > > NOAA: Coolest Winter Since 2001 for U.S., Globe
> > > March 13, 2008
> > > The average temperature across both the contiguous U.S. and the
> > > globe
> > > during climatological winter (December 2007-February 2008) was the
> > > coolest since 2001, according to scientists at NOAA's National
> > > Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.
>
> > The eight warmest years in the GISS record have all occurred since
> > 1998, and the 14 warmest years in the record have all occurred since
> > 1990.
> > ********************************
>
> > ROTFLMAO
>
> > Below is an extract from ...
> > IPCC On The Run At Last
>
> > OnTheWeb: Bob Carter
>
> > March 25, 2008
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> >http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2352
>
> > QUOTE: "To avoid acknowledging the recent flat-lining of global
> > temperature,
>
> Flat-lining? Just the other day you quoted the following from the
> 'canadafreepress' ...
As usual you can't deal with an actual argument. All you can do is
look up stuff and post it, without any clue as to whether it really
makes a case -- and as usual in this case, it doesn't (though it did
confirm your view that because January 2008 was a below average month
(as a result of La Nina) the whole of AGW had to be rejected).
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No Fran baby, it's not just January!

Plus global temps have FLATLINED since 1998.

Methinks I sense some desperation in your posts!







Coldest Winter For Decades In Northern Hemisphere

Phil Brennan

February 19, 2008

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/global_warming_or_cooling/2008/02/19/73798.htmlAre the world's ice caps melting because of climate change, or are thereports just a lot of scaremongering by the advocates of the globalwarming theory?Scaremongering appears to be the case, according to reports from theU.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that revealthat almost all the allegedly "lost" ice has come back. A NOAA reportshows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square miles inJanuary 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October, are almostback to their original levels.Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that thereis nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging theglobal warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of skeptics who denythat the world is undergoing global warming.The Daily express recalls the photograph of polar bears clinging on to amelting iceberg which has been widely hailed as proof of the need tofight climate change and has been used by former Vice President Al Goreduring his "Inconvenient Truth" lectures about mankind's alleged impacton the global climate.Gore fails to mention that the photograph was taken in the month ofAugust when melting is normal. Or that the polar bear population hassoared in recent years.As winter roars in across the Northern Hemisphere, Mother Nature seemsto have joined the ranks of the skeptics.As the Express notes, scientists are saying the northern Hemisphere hasendured its coldest winter in decades, adding that snow cover across thearea is at its greatest since 1966. The newspaper cites the oneexception - Western Europe, which had been basking in unseasonably warmweather, until the weekend when temperatures plunged to as low as -10 Cin some places.Around the world, vast areas have been buried under some of the heaviestsnowfalls in decades. Central and southern China, the United States, andCanada were hit hard by snowstorms. In China, snowfall was so heavy thatover 100,000 houses collapsed under the weight of snow.Jerusalem, Damascus, Amman, and northern Saudi Arabia report theheaviest falls in years and below-zero temperatures. In Afghanistan,snow and freezing weather killed 120 people. Even Baghdad had asnowstorm, the first in the memory of most residents.AFP news reports icy temperatures have just swept through south China,stranding 180,000 people and leading to widespread power cuts just asthe area was recovering from the worst weather in 50 years, thegovernment said Monday. The latest cold snap has taken a severe toll inusually temperate Yunnan province, which has been struck by heavysnowfalls since Thursday, a government official from the provincialdisaster relief office told AFP.Twelve people have died there, state Xinhua news agency reported, andfour remained missing as of Saturday.An ongoing record-long spell of cold weather in Vietnam's northernregion, which started on Jan. 14, has killed nearly 60,000 cattle,mainly bull and buffalo calves, local press reported Monday. By Feb. 17,the spell had killed a total of 59,962 cattle in the region, including7,349 in the Ha Giang province, 6,400 in Lao Cai, and 5,571 in Bac Canprovince, said Hoang Kim Giao, director of the Animal HusbandryDepartment under the Vietnamese Ministry of Agriculture and RuralDevelopment, according to the Pioneer newspaper.In Britain the temperatures plunged to -10 C in central England,according to the Express, which reports that experts say that Februarycould end up as one of the coldest in Britain in the past 10 years withthe freezing night-time conditions expected to stay around a frigid -8 Cuntil at least the middle of the week. And the BBC reports that a buscompany's efforts to cut global warming emissions have led to servicesbeing disrupted by cold weather.Meanwhile Athens News reports that a raging snow storm that blanketedmost of Greece over the weekend and continued into the early morninghours on Monday, plunging the country into sub-zero temperatures. Theagency reported that public transport buses were at a standstill onMonday in the wider Athens area, while ships remained in ports, publicservices remained closed, and schools and courthouses in the moreseverely-stricken prefectures were also closed.Scores of villages, mainly on the island of Crete, and in theprefectures of Evia, Argolida, Arcadia, Lakonia, Viotia, and theCyclades islands were snowed in.More than 100 villages were snowed-in on the island of Crete andtemperatures in Athens dropped to -6 C before dawn, while the coldesttemperatures were recorded in Kozani, Grevena, Kastoria and Florina,where they plunged to -12 C.Temperatures in Athens dropped to -6 C before dawn, while the coldesttemperatures were recorded in Kozani, Grevena, Kastoria and Florina,where they plunged to -12 C.If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.--Warmest RegardsBonzo". researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germanyreport the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years,accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature overthe last 100 years."http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175