On Mar 19, 1:06 pm, buckeye
> Why Shariah?
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/magazine/16Shariah-t.html?_r=3D1&oref...=
>
> By NOAH FELDMAN
> Published: March 16, 2008
>
> Last month, Rowan Williams, the archbishop of Canterbury, gave a nuanced,
> scholarly lecture in London about whether the British legal system should
> allow non-Christian courts to decide certain matters of family law. Britai=
n
> has no constitutional separation of church and state. The archbishop noted=
> that "the law of the Church of England is the law of the land" there;
> indeed, ecclesiastical courts that once handled marriage and divorce are
> still integrated into the British legal system, deciding matters of church=
> property and doctrine. His tentative suggestion was that, subject to the
> agreement of all parties and the strict requirement of protecting equal
> rights for women, it might be a good idea to consider allowing Islamic and=
> Orthodox Jewish courts to handle marriage and divorce.
>
> Then all hell broke loose. From politicians across the spectrum to senior
> church figures and the ubiquitous British tabloids came calls for the
> leader of the world's second largest Christian denomination to issue a
> retraction or even resign. Williams has spent the last couple of years
> trying to hold together the global Anglican Communion in the face of
> continuing controversies about ordaining gay priests and recognizing
> same-sex marriages. Yet little in that contentious battle subjected him to=
> the kind of outcry that his reference to religious courts unleashed.
> Needless to say, the outrage was not occasioned by Williams's mention of
> Orthodox Jewish law. For the purposes of public discussion, it was the wor=
d
> "Shariah" that was radioactive.
>
> In some sense, the outrage about according a degree of official status to
> Shariah in a Western country should come as no surprise. No legal system
> has ever had worse press. To many, the word "Shariah" conjures horrors of
> hands cut off, adulterers stoned and women oppressed. By contrast, who
> today remembers that the much-loved English common law called for executio=
n
> as punishment for hundreds of crimes, including theft of any object worth
> five shillings or more? How many know that until the 18th century, the law=
s
> of most European countries authorized torture as an official component of
> the criminal-justice system? As for sexism, the common law long denied
> married women any property rights or indeed legal personality apart from
> their husbands. When the British applied their law to Muslims in place of
> Shariah, as they did in some colonies, the result was to strip married
> women of the property that Islamic law had always granted them -- hardly
> progress toward equality of the sexes.
>
> In fact, for most of its history, Islamic law offered the most liberal and=
> humane legal principles available anywhere in the world. Today, when we
> invoke the harsh punishments prescribed by Shariah for a handful of
> offenses, we rarely acknowledge the high standards of proof necessary for
> their implementation. Before an adultery conviction can typically be
> obtained, for example, the accused must confess four times or four adult
> male witnesses of good character must testify that they directly observed
> the sex act. The extremes of our own legal system -- like life sentences f=
or
> relatively minor drug crimes, in some cases -- are routinely ignored. We
> neglect to mention the recent vintage of our tentative improvements in
> family law. It sometimes seems as if we need Shariah as Westerners have
> long needed Islam: as a canvas on which to project our ideas of the
> horrible, and as a foil to make us look good.
>
> In the Muslim world, on the other hand, the reputation of Shariah has
> undergone an extraordinary revival in recent years. A century ago,
> forward-looking Muslims thought of Shariah as outdated, in need of reform
> or maybe abandonment. Today, 66 percent of Egyptians, 60 percent of
> Pakistanis and 54 percent of Jordanians say that Shariah should be the onl=
y
> source of legislation in their countries. Islamist political parties, like=
> those associated with the transnational Muslim Brotherhood, make the
> adoption of Shariah the most prominent plank in their political platforms.=
> And the message resonates. Wherever Islamists have been allowed to run for=
> office in Arabic-speaking countries, they have tended to win almost as man=
y
> seats as the governments have let them contest. The Islamist movement in
> its various incarnations -- from moderate to radical -- is easily the fast=
est
> growing and most vital in the Muslim world; the return to Shariah is its
> calling card.
>
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> You are invited to check out the following:
>
> The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~can=
dst/theocracy.htm
>
> American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/the=
ocrats.htm
>
> The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members=
.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
>
> [and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
> Church and State in general, listed below]
>
> HRSepCnS =B7 Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gro=
up/HRSepCnS/
>
> ***************************************************************
> . . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
> respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
> take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "=
a
> page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner=
,
> 256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
> Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
> . . .
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> USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
>
> "You pilot always into an unknown future;
> facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
>
> That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
> many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
>
> It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
> plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
> almost every media turn.
>
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> THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
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>
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Do you believe that the English court system,
and by extension, the American court system,
should look the other way when Shari'a law
prescribes honor killings, the stoning to
death of adulteresses, the amputation of limbs
for theft, the beheading of apostates, the
beating of Muslim women who wear western
clothes, the hanging of homosexuals and other
bizarre practices of a Seventh Century
religion that refuses to go through a
reformation and join the 21st Century. Members
of this bizarre religion riot and kill people
and damage property when they believe their
Prophet has been insulted, issues fatwas for
the death of authors who write books they feel
insult their religion and danced in the
streets when they heard about the infamous
9-11 attacks.