alt.education

"Joe Irvin" wrote:
>> Spartacus was a Christian?
>
>Nope, just a slave uprising like other slave uprisings ... wasn't a
>movement to end slavery.

Oh, so if slaves do it, it isn't a movement?

>> Moses was a Christian (assuming you believe the Exodus tale really
>> happened as stated)?
>
>I don't think Moses wanted to end slavery, just get his people out of
>slavery ... it wasn't an anti-slavery movement.

That is all any anti/-slavery movement is, trying to get some group of
people out of what is labeled by them as slavery.

>>>today in the West
>>
>> after the Enlightenment, and the rise of post-Christian secularism
>
>Are you saying W Wilberforce and Christianity didn't have much to do with
>the anti slavery movement?

Wilberforce did, but not Christianity.

But of course Wilberforce had little to do with the American anti
slavery movement, which was an entirely separate thing.

>> >> < tax collected on most dutiable items entering the United States. In
>> < 1860 American tariff rates were among the lowest in the world and
>> < also at historical lows by 19th century standards, the average rate
>> < for 1857 through 1860 being around 17% overall (ad valorem), or 21%
>> < on dutiable items only. The Morrill Tariff immediately raised these
>> < averages to about 26% overall or 36% on dutiable items, and further
>> < increases by 1865 left the comparable rates at 38% and 48%. Although
>> < higher than in the immediate antebellum period, these rates were
>> < significantly lower than between 1825 and 1830, when rates had
>> < sometimes been over 50%.[8]
>>
>> So why didn't they secede between 1825 and 1830, when tariffs were 50%
>> higher than AFTER the Morrill Act was signed (most of the states had
>> already seceded, or the Act might not even have passed).
>
>I don't know ... why didn't the colonist declare independence earlier ... my
>guess is they hadn't been pushed far enough, obviously.

They didn't have the votes.

lojbab