Group: alt.education
From: PseuDoeCyAnts
Date: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: The Muslim Students Association: Segregation Not Integration

on Wed 05 Mar 2008 06:45:22p
"leonard78sp@gmail.com" posted
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> On Mar 4, 1:53 am, PseuDoeCyAnts
> wrote:
>> on Sun 02 Mar 2008 07:21:35p
>> last_p...@rogers.com posted
>> in news:58e2874a-3572-4437-bbb8-82583e57d60b@
>> 60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Robert Spencer is a scholar of Islamic history, theology,
>> > and law and the director of Jihad Watch.
>> > He is the author of seven books, eight monographs,
>> > and hundreds of articles about jihad and Islamic
>> > terrorism, including the New York Times Bestsellers
>> > The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the
>> > Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad.
>> > His latest book is Religion of Peace?.
>>
>> Bullshit. Spencer's scholarship prior to September 11, 2001,
>> resided entirely within the field of Catholic history. His
>> website JihadWatch was paid for by David Horowitz, who is a
>> self-confessed unapologetic American traitor.
>>
>> Read Davey's Confession to a premeditated publishing of
>> classified material, not for any stated higher good, but with
>> malice and forthought intending to damage the United States. He
>> also engaged in conspiracy at the same time, and admits that
>> publishing the classified information aided two foreign
>> governments, one the USSR during the height of the Cold War.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also noteworthy here is something the original poster felt
>> better left uncited; where it was published. It was
>> FrontPageMag, which is David Horowitz's publication.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that neither Spencer or Horowitz possess the integrity to
>> mention their chummy financial relationship on this page.
>>
>> There is also substantial criticism regarding the scholarship
>> of Spencer's published books about Islam. Carl W. Ernst,
>> William R. Kenan, Jr., Distinguished Professor of Religious
>> Studies and Director of the Carolina Center for the Study of
>> the Middle East and Muslim Civilizations University of North
>> Carolina-Chapel Hill, has this to say about Spencer's books:
>>
>> Who are the publishing firms that publish Spencer's works?
>> Who funds them? Who supports his work? Some information on
>> these patrons is given below (the numbers refer to the
>> citations of the organizations marked in bold in the
>> paragraph above). This information is significant because
>> these books are not scholarly, and they do not pass the
>> review of blind refereed evaluation practiced by
>> university presses. They are instead supported by specific
>> political and ideological interests through think-tanks
>> and private foundations. They need to be evaluated
>> differently from scholarly studies, since their agenda
>> does not have to do with the scholarly goals of the
>> humanities and the social sciences. In particular, the
>> lectures given by authors such as Spencer on college
>> campuses may be misunderstood as being equivalent to
>> scholarly research. While it certainly may be acknowledged
>> that scholarship has political implications, independent
>> research needs to be distinguished from hired polemics.
>>
>>
>
>
> ** ROFLMAO
> Good old Prof Ernst- the longer the title the weaker the
> scholarship. Translating his screed: his chair is funded by
> Sa'udi money as are most of the ME studies departments.
> What Spencer writes is diametrically opposed to what the
> Muslim Brotherhood orders poor old Ernst -- he sold his
> soul to the devil and now he must pay by disputing
> established facts.
>
> ** As for you pseudo , you are just as full of horsecrap as
> ever.
> I guess back in the cooler you go.

Ad hominem arguments used to back up unsubstantiated claims.
A recognised scholar in religious studies specialising in Middle
East and Iskamic societies, clearly and succintly challenges
Spencer's claim of Islamic scholarship, and you sinply insult the
real scholar without offering any arguments that disprove what he
has stated.

Please offer just ONE example of Spencer authorship orior to 911,
which can be catergorised as Islamic scholarship. Should be easy
right? If you cannot, could you at least one attempt to be
honest, and admit you're a ravening idiot?

C'mon dim-witted ditto-headed asswipe,
unfit for use in a sysentery ward;

JUST ONE PRE-911 SPENCER CITATION

I await your citation anxiously.

I also note that you simply ignored my specific citation to
Horowitz's authorship in which he confesses to being an American
traitor. How convenient...

The Rampant Moral Relativism of The Right is Repugnant.