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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in message
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> On Feb 26, 9:12 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
>> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> messagenews:a0515e65-5f50-4e00-a860-17b8161036d0@t66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 25, 11:56 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
>> >> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> >> messagenews:5551651b-b245-4d42-8dbe-dc8281e305ad@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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>> >> > On Feb 25, 7:32 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
>> >> >> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> >> >> messagenews:984f4cd8-1080-43f3-b87a-c43e739afe49@o77g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> > On Feb 24, 2:59 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> >> >> >> messagenews:385e7ffd-33a2-475d-b3fc-832b7e16eb0f@41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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>> >> >> >> > On Feb 24, 11:50 am, "stevericks"
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> It is amazing how one dances around the issue of ones
>> >> >> >> >> inappropriate
>> >> >> >> >> behavior
>>
>> >> >> >> > "inappropriate"...see below
>>
>> >> >> >> >> in regard to Christianity. To avoid the topic, you
>> >> >> >> >> immediately
>> >> >> >> >> raise
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> issue of discrimination. That is a simple, well known
>> >> >> >> >> redirection
>> >> >> >> >> ploy
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> avoid a topic where you know you are wrong. By the way,
>> >> >> >> >> discrimination,
>> >> >> >> >> per
>> >> >> >> >> se is not bad, only when it is applied in wrongful
>> >> >> >> >> situations.
>> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> discriminate between good advice and bad advice daily. I
>> >> >> >> >> discriminate
>> >> >> >> >> between proper Christian behavior and inappropriate Christian
>> >> >> >> >> behavior
>>
>> >> >> >> > "proper" and "inappropriate"...see below
>>
>> >> >> >> >> daily. I can't imagine anything wrong with discriminating
>> >> >> >> >> against
>> >> >> >> >> arguments that are flawed, people who argue for the sake of
>> >> >> >> >> arguing,
>> >> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> >> people who claim to be Christian but their continual behavior
>> >> >> >> >> goes
>> >> >> >> >> against
>> >> >> >> >> Christian teachings. In this group I imagine there are many
>> >> >> >> >> practicing
>>
>> >> >> >> > "I imagine"...see below
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Christians and many whose lives, though not perfect, would
>> >> >> >> >> agree
>> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> are not presenting a good image of Christianity. I cannot
>> >> >> >> >> see
>> >> >> >> >> how
>> >> >> >> >> your
>>
>> >> >> >> > "good image"...see below
>>
>> >> >> >> >> behavior would encourage any nonChristian to want to consider
>> >> >> >> >> Christianity.
>>
>> >> >> >> > All of the words I pointed out from this first paragraph are
>> >> >> >> > SUBJECTIVE conclusions, based upon no evidence...i.e.
>> >> >> >> > prejudice.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> You seem to be into wanting to win debates, rather than
>> >> >> >> >> share
>> >> >> >> >> ideas.
>> >> >> >> >> Your
>> >> >> >> >> numerous ridiculous questions support this belief, rather
>> >> >> >> >> than
>> >> >> >> >> providing
>> >> >> >> >> details of what you think.
>>
>> >> >> >> > Says the one that, rather than give details, launched into a
>> >> >> >> > religious
>> >> >> >> > attack on me.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Even one of your books cites "Silver Bullet
>> >> >> >> >> Debate Answers" which is likely a clue that you think you are
>> >> >> >> >> an
>> >> >> >> >> expert
>> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> debating. If a vote were taken among everyone participating
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> >> group,
>> >> >> >> >> the vote of who is making no sense and who is would likely be
>> >> >> >> >> 1
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> everyone,
>> >> >> >> >> with you the looser. Of course, I am not sure how you were
>> >> >> >> >> taught
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> debate
>> >> >> >> >> class as to who "wins", but it is usually by vote. When one
>> >> >> >> >> person
>> >> >> >> >> thinks
>> >> >> >> >> he have won and everyone else thinks otherwise, then it is
>> >> >> >> >> pretty
>> >> >> >> >> obvious
>> >> >> >> >> where the lack of reason is located.
>>
>> >> >> >> > Complete presentation of your prejudice given, thank you. In
>> >> >> >> > fact,
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > took NO debate classes, and you haven't read a bit of that
>> >> >> >> > book,
>> >> >> >> > so
>> >> >> >> > you have no facts, only PREJUDICE and assumption based on it.
>>
>> >> >> >> >>And, there is noting wrong with
>> >> >> >> >> discriminating in logic against someone who doesn't seem to
>> >> >> >> >> know
>> >> >> >> >> what
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> are talking about.
>>
>> >> >> >> > Ah..but here's the problem with your case. When you attacked
>> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> > faith, I had not presented ONE religious post or suggestion.
>> >> >> >> > So,
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > weren't responding to something I posted that you thought
>> >> >> >> > inaccurate
>> >> >> >> > but were, instead, injecting YOUR PRESUMPTION and PREJUDICE
>> >> >> >> > upon
>> >> >> >> > myself.
>>
>> >> >> >> My take on it was that he did not think you were acting like the
>> >> >> >> Christian
>> >> >> >> superhero your sig line declares you to be. Not that he was
>> >> >> >> attacking
>> >> >> >> your
>> >> >> >> faith at all.
>>
>> >> >> > He posted a critical post concerning religion. He SAID this was
>> >> >> > aimed
>> >> >> > at my Christianity. Even you admit he didn't think I was acting
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > a Christian.
>>
>> >> >> Geesh, Kenneth! He is referring to you *behavior* not your faith.
>> >> >> Do
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> think the 2 are inseparable?
>>
>> >> >> So, how, exactly, is that not an attack on my faith.
>>
>> >> >> > Can I say YOU are not acting like the teacher you claim to be and
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > NOT be an attack on your teacher identity?
>>
>> >> >> Sure, Kenneth, go ahead. Have fun with that.
>>
>> >> > And that would not be an attack on your teacher identity?
>>
>> >> Why would I care? If my behavior flew in the face of my
>> >> professionalism,
>> >> It
>> >> would not be amiss to call me on it. That would not invalidate the
>> >> professionalism to which I aspire. Why does having your behavior
>> >> questioned
>> >> bother you so much?
>>
>> > You mean having my faith questioned or posting behavior (mechanics)?
>>
>> Your faith was never questioned--only your behavior in relation to the
>> tenets of your declared faith. Do you find your posting behavior to be
>> in
>> line with your faith?
>
> Well, since it has nothing to do with questioning my faith, it is
> irrelevant..right?

Huh? Anything that has nothing to do with questioning your faith is
irrelevant? So your posting behavior is ok in your mind?