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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in message
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> On Feb 25, 7:24 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
>> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> messagenews:6823500d-f6fc-4086-a402-885205382270@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
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>> > On Feb 24, 3:06 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
>> >> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> >> messagenews:56e707ff-4379-4e03-be8a-e7a558a793a7@q33g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Feb 24, 2:39 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
>> >> >> "Cary Kittrell" wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:fpsjhe$hgu$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
>>
>> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> > <48416c2d-743e-4813-99c2-f4c36a60e...@d5g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>> >> >> > Wide
>> >> >> > Eyed in Wonder writes:
>> >> >> >> On Feb 24, 11:07 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
>> >> >> >> > "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> >> >> >> > messagenews:f8325ef5-c9cb-4de9-a981-a1e617eab406@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
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>> >> >> >> > > On Feb 23, 2:07 pm, "teachrmama"
>> >> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> >> >> >> > >> messagenews:ce60f0bb-8ab7-46fc-ab78-8362d72048f3@71g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > On Feb 21, 11:37 pm, "teachrmama"
>> >> >> >> > >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> >> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
>> >> >> >> > >> >> messagenews:8ab61a55-dcc5-4b21-9584-26df8614c44a@64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > On Feb 21, 11:16 am, Bob LeChevalier
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Why do you think your "private school" is any
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> better
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> than a
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "Bible
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> school"? Does it teach anything other than the
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Bible?
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >It has dozens of degrees, MOST of which have nothing
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >do
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >with
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Bible. Zero for One.
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> One of those two accreditation programs that I cited
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> says
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> otherwise.
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > The regional accreditation organization covers all of
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > their
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > undergrad
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > degrees. Are you TRYING to deceive here or are you
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > just
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > being
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > stupid?
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >My degree is in the undergraduate study of
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >religion
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >(it
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >just
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >happened
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >to have Bible
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >involved).
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> When have you shown the slightest knowledge of any
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> religion
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> other
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> than
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> your own brainwashing?
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Except that in this context, we were talking about
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Steve's
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >comments
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >about the Christian Bible, not the Torah or the
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Quaran.
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> We were talking about your lack of education in any
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> religion
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> other
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> than your own brainwashing. Steve's degree in
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> religion
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> involved
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> studying things outside your ken (pun intended). I
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> ever
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> reason
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> to believe that he knows as much as you do, and from
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> much
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> broader
>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> perspective.
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > Try to stay with me...I know it's hard for you. Steve
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > posted a
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > post
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > about Scripture translations...CHRISTIAN Scripture
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > translations. He
>> >> >> >> > >> >> > claimed authority to do it with a religion minor.
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Huh? I didn't see where he claimed that he had the
>> >> >> >> > >> >> "authority
>> >> >> >> > >> >> to
>> >> >> >> > >> >> post" a
>> >> >> >> > >> >> scripture using several translations bwecause he had a
>> >> >> >> > >> >> religion
>> >> >> >> > >> >> minor.
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Why
>> >> >> >> > >> >> would anyone need "authority" to quote the Bible? Does
>> >> >> >> > >> >> one
>> >> >> >> > >> >> need
>> >> >> >> > >> >> to
>> >> >> >> > >> >> have
>> >> >> >> > >> >> a
>> >> >> >> > >> >> religion major or minor to quote the Bible where you
>> >> >> >> > >> >> come
>> >> >> >> > >> >> from?
>> >> >> >> > >> >> That
>> >> >> >> > >> >> is
>> >> >> >> > >> >> very, very weird, Kenneth.
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > What was the purpose, then, of his mentioning his
>> >> >> >> > >> > religion
>> >> >> >> > >> > minor?
>> >> >> >> > >> > I'll wait for your answer.
>>
>> >> >> >> > >> I will be glad to answer your question when you tell me,
>> >> >> >> > >> specifically,
>> >> >> >> > >> how
>> >> >> >> > >> you intend to "teach children to save money" in the
>> >> >> >> > >> classroom.
>> >> >> >> > >> Just
>> >> >> >> > >> saying
>> >> >> >> > >> "savings accounts" isn't going to cut it. That is just one
>> >> >> >> > >> idea
>> >> >> >> > >> with no
>> >> >> >> > >> supporting detail. Please supply a more detailed plan of
>> >> >> >> > >> how
>> >> >> >> > >> to
>> >> >> >> > >> carry
>> >> >> >> > >> out
>> >> >> >> > >> your idea.
>>
>> >> >> >> > > I thought I had supplied NO ideas. Now, suddenly, I
>> >> >> >> > > supplied
>> >> >> >> > > ONLY
>> >> >> >> > > one? Also, ONE idea IS an answer to your question, evne if
>> >> >> >> > > you
>> >> >> >> > > don't
>> >> >> >> > > like it. Now, answer my question. What was his purpose for
>> >> >> >> > > mentioning the religion minor?
>>
>> >> >> >> > I will be very glad to answer your question when you finally
>> >> >> >> > get
>> >> >> >> > around
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > answering mine. "Savings accounts," which was mentioned only
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > original post and, therefore, was never in answer to my
>> >> >> >> > question,
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > not a
>> >> >> >> > detailed plan. I didn't ask for your "ideas," in any case. I
>> >> >> >> > asked
>> >> >> >> > for the
>> >> >> >> > details of how you plan to reach your goal of "teaching kids
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > save
>> >> >> >> > money."
>> >> >> >> > What are your specific behavioral objectives for your plan?
>> >> >> >> > What
>> >> >> >> > will
>> >> >> >> > we
>> >> >> >> > see happening as a result of your teaching this
>> >> >> >> > unit--measurable
>> >> >> >> > goals,
>> >> >> >> > Kenneth. That's what I want to see. And the steps you will
>> >> >> >> > take
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > get to
>> >> >> >> > those goals. Details--not one idea that has no details as to
>> >> >> >> > how
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > carry
>> >> >> >> > it out.
>>
>> >> >> >> And...of course...YOU have provided details for your answers to
>> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> questions...not just ideas but details? Indeed. Have you given
>> >> >> >> details about ANY idea you've posted in any of the recent
>> >> >> >> Educational
>> >> >> >> threads in which we have conversed? Or, do you hold a different
>> >> >> >> standard for me than you do yourself (a hypocrite)?
>>
>> >> >> > Oh, it appears that `teachrmama' holds herself to exactly
>> >> >> > the same standards that she holds you to: you won't post
>> >> >> > details of your "plan", she won't post details of hers.
>>
>> >> >> > Seems fair enough...
>>
>> >> >> Thing is, I don't recall posting any "plans," then refusing to give
>> >> >> details
>> >> >> when asked. I am glad to share my ideas and ways to accomplish
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> others. But, then, I don't post about things that I know
>> >> >> absolutely
>> >> >> nothing
>> >> >> about.
>>
>> >> > I guess until you provide details, no one should answer your
>> >> > questions...right? Also, is it possible...even POSSIBLE that I know
>> >> > "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING" about money management or saving? If not, you
>> >> > lied there, and you are proving your prejudice.
>>
>> >> My dad used to say "If you fart in church, turn around and
>> >> glare
>> >> at the person behind you, and everyone else will glare at them, too."
>> >> That
>> >> seems to be one of your favorite tactics, Kenneth.
>>
>> > I've provided the details you sought in another post, so I expect you
>> > to answer this question, above. Is is possible I know "absolutely
>> > nothing" about money management or savings?
>>
>> You have provided no details, Kenneth.
>
> Really NO details? So, a 529 plan isn't a detailed suggestion?
>
> I have given you some details. That is what you asked for. Answer my
> questions. If you think I only partially answered you (not true),
> give me a partial answer to my questions....but give me something or
> be a hypocrite.

You don't think it is just a partial answer? Take you "detailed plan" to a
teacher and ask if his/her principal would accept it as a lesson plan for
"teaching kids to save money." I know mine wouldn't, because you have *no*
behavioral objectives. You have the children actually doing *nothing* but
handing money to the teacher. Would you like to hear how I would teach the
concept of saving to my kindergarten class?