Group: alt.education
From: Wide Eyed in Wonder
Date: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Teaching Kids to Save Money

On Feb 25, 7:32 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in messagenews:984f4cd8-1080-43f3-b87a-c43e739afe49@o77g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 24, 2:59 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
> >> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" wrote in
> >> messagenews:385e7ffd-33a2-475d-b3fc-832b7e16eb0f@41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Feb 24, 11:50 am, "stevericks" wrote:
> >> >> It is amazing how one dances around the issue of ones inappropriate
> >> >> behavior
>
> >> > "inappropriate"...see below
>
> >> >> in regard to Christianity. To avoid the topic, you immediately raise
> >> >> the
> >> >> issue of discrimination. That is a simple, well known redirection
> >> >> ploy
> >> >> to
> >> >> avoid a topic where you know you are wrong. By the way,
> >> >> discrimination,
> >> >> per
> >> >> se is not bad, only when it is applied in wrongful situations. I
> >> >> discriminate between good advice and bad advice daily. I discriminate
> >> >> between proper Christian behavior and inappropriate Christian behavior
>
> >> > "proper" and "inappropriate"...see below
>
> >> >> daily. I can't imagine anything wrong with discriminating against
> >> >> arguments that are flawed, people who argue for the sake of arguing,
> >> >> or
> >> >> people who claim to be Christian but their continual behavior goes
> >> >> against
> >> >> Christian teachings. In this group I imagine there are many
> >> >> practicing
>
> >> > "I imagine"...see below
>
> >> >> Christians and many whose lives, though not perfect, would agree that
> >> >> you
> >> >> are not presenting a good image of Christianity. I cannot see how
> >> >> your
>
> >> > "good image"...see below
>
> >> >> behavior would encourage any nonChristian to want to consider
> >> >> Christianity.
>
> >> > All of the words I pointed out from this first paragraph are
> >> > SUBJECTIVE conclusions, based upon no evidence...i.e. prejudice.
>
> >> >> You seem to be into wanting to win debates, rather than share ideas.
> >> >> Your
> >> >> numerous ridiculous questions support this belief, rather than
> >> >> providing
> >> >> details of what you think.
>
> >> > Says the one that, rather than give details, launched into a religious
> >> > attack on me.
>
> >> >> Even one of your books cites "Silver Bullet
> >> >> Debate Answers" which is likely a clue that you think you are an
> >> >> expert
> >> >> at
> >> >> debating. If a vote were taken among everyone participating in this
> >> >> group,
> >> >> the vote of who is making no sense and who is would likely be 1 to
> >> >> everyone,
> >> >> with you the looser. Of course, I am not sure how you were taught in
> >> >> debate
> >> >> class as to who "wins", but it is usually by vote. When one person
> >> >> thinks
> >> >> he have won and everyone else thinks otherwise, then it is pretty
> >> >> obvious
> >> >> where the lack of reason is located.
>
> >> > Complete presentation of your prejudice given, thank you. In fact, I
> >> > took NO debate classes, and you haven't read a bit of that book, so
> >> > you have no facts, only PREJUDICE and assumption based on it.
>
> >> >>And, there is noting wrong with
> >> >> discriminating in logic against someone who doesn't seem to know what
> >> >> they
> >> >> are talking about.
>
> >> > Ah..but here's the problem with your case. When you attacked my
> >> > faith, I had not presented ONE religious post or suggestion. So, you
> >> > weren't responding to something I posted that you thought inaccurate
> >> > but were, instead, injecting YOUR PRESUMPTION and PREJUDICE upon
> >> > myself.
>
> >> My take on it was that he did not think you were acting like the
> >> Christian
> >> superhero your sig line declares you to be. Not that he was attacking
> >> your
> >> faith at all.
>
> > He posted a critical post concerning religion. He SAID this was aimed
> > at my Christianity. Even you admit he didn't think I was acting like
> > a Christian.
>
> Geesh, Kenneth! He is referring to you *behavior* not your faith. Do you
> think the 2 are inseparable?
>
> So, how, exactly, is that not an attack on my faith.
>
> > Can I say YOU are not acting like the teacher you claim to be and that
> > NOT be an attack on your teacher identity?
>
> Sure, Kenneth, go ahead. Have fun with that.

And that would not be an attack on your teacher identity?

Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com