alt.education

In article Topaz writes:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:29:58 -0700 (PDT),
> fightdomesticterror@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >More distortions from Dave Duke from Duke's website (/general/
> >3603_3603.html)
> >
> >Duke writes:
> >
> >__________
> >On March 18, in Washington, D.C. three official representatives of the
> >Obama, Clinton and McCain campaigns came before Jewish leaders and
> >promised their candidate's complete subservience to Israel. The three
> >representatives that spoke were Lawrence Eagleburger for McCain, Ann
> >Lewis for Clinton, and Daniel Kurtzer, former U.S. Ambassador to
> >Israel, for Obama.
> >
> >The Washington Post (Audacity of Chutzpah, Dana Milbank, March 18,
> >2008) quotes Ann Lewis as saying:
> >
> >"The role of the President of the United States is to support the
> >decisions that are made by the people of Israel."
> >
> >Neither McCain's nor Obama's official representatives dared to object
> >to this absurdly un-American statement, and they simply continued to
> >argue to maintain that their own candidate would be the most
> >subservient to Israel's extreme agendas.
> >__________
> >
> >Duke lies and takes the discussion and washington article out of
> >context
> >The washington post article is here for anyone to see for themselves
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/17/AR2008031702440_pf.html
> >
> >The real conversation (opposed to Duke's lies)
> >
> >"Next question to Kurtzer: Obama's assertion that he needn't have a
> >Likud view -- that of Israel's right-wing party -- to be pro-Israel.
> >Kurtzer explained that Obama wanted to see a "plurality of views."
> >Silence in the room. To that, Lewis retorted: "The role of the
> >president of the United States is to support the decisions that are
> >made by the people of Israel. It is not up to us to pick and choose
> >from among the political parties." The audience members applauded."
> >
> >Ann's statement wasn't Unamerican. She stated clearly that the role of
> >our president is to support the democratic political election
> >decisions made by the people of Israel. She clearly states thats its
> >not up to us (Americans) to choose from among their political parties.
> >Duke took her partial statement out of context to create his neo-nazi
> >propoganda.
> >
> Duke was right. Your "out of context" excuse doesn't amount to a hill
> of beans.

Actually he is completely correct -- and I brought this exact same point
to your attention last time you posted something about that quote.

In its full context it says nothing more than that the government
of the United States, in its dealings with Israel, must deal with the
government elected by the people of Israel, and not with whatever
Israeli political party we might rather deal with.

Its exactly parallel to saying that if Israel wishes to deal
with us, then they must deal with the President and Congress
we choose to elect, and not with the Green Party or the Natural
Law Party.

It says exactly that, and nothing more.


-- cary



America is ruled by the Jews:
>
>
> by Kevin MacDonald
>
> The current situation in the United States is really an awesome
> display of Jewish power and influence. People who are very strongly
> identified as Jews maintain close ties to Israeli politicians and
> military figures and to Jewish activist organizations and pro-Israeli
> lobbying groups while occupying influential policy-making positions in
> the defense and foreign policy establishment. These same people, as
> well as a chorus of other prominent Jews, have routine access to the
> most prestigious media outlets in the United States. People who
> criticize Israel are routinely vilified and subjected to professional
> abuse.
> Perhaps the most telling feature of this entire state of affairs is
> the surreal fact that in this entire discourse Jewish identity is not
> mentioned. When Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol, Michael Rubin,
> William Safire, Robert Satloff, or the legions of other prominent
> media figures write their reflexively pro-Israel pieces in the New
> York Times, the Wall Street Journal, or the Los Angeles Times, or
> opine on the Fox News Network, there is never any mention that they
> are Jewish Americans who have an intense ethnic interest in Israel.
> When Richard Perle authors a report for an Israeli think tank; is on
> the board of directors of an Israeli newspaper; maintains close
> personal ties with prominent Israelis, especially those associated
> with the Likud Party; has worked for an Israeli defense company; and,
> according to credible reports, was discovered by the FBI passing
> classified information to Israel - when, despite all of this, he is a
> central figure in the network of those pushing for wars to rearrange
> the entire politics of the Middle East in Israel's favor, and with
> nary a soul having the courage to mention the obvious overriding
> Jewish loyalty apparent in Perle's actions, that is indeed a
> breathtaking display of power.
> One must contemplate the fact that American Jews have managed to
> maintain unquestioned support for Israel over the last thirty-seven
> years, despite Israel's seizing land and engaging in a brutal
> suppression of the Palestinians in the occupied territories - an
> occupation that will most likely end with expulsion or complete
> subjugation, degradation, and apartheid. During the same period Jewish
> organizations in America have been a principal force - in my view the
> main force - for transforming America into a state dedicated to
> suppressing ethnic identification among Europeans, for encouraging
> massive multiethnic immigration into the U.S., and for erecting a
> legal system and cultural ideology that is obsessively sensitive to
> the complaints and interests of non-European ethnic minorities - the
> culture of the Holocaust. All this is done without a whisper of
> double standards in the aboveground media...
>
>
> http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
>
> http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
>
> http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html