Group: alt.education
From: cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell)
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2008 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: Obama Against War on Terror?

In article Wide Eyed in Wonder writes:
> On Feb 21, 12:22 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <142f0471-8dfe-47c8-8ef8-3e63de72e...@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> andy writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 20, 2:19=A0pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
> > > > On Feb 20, 10:56 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> >
> > > > > In article > > > .com> Wide Eyed in Wonder writes:
> >
> > > > > > According to recent news, Obama said he opposed "this war in 2002."
> >
> > > > > Good for him. =A0So did I. =A0So did millions of people world-wide.
> > > > > We saw it coming. =A0We saw that Bush was going to contrive
> > > > > a way to invade, come what may. =A0We saw that it would
> > > > > drain resources from a conflict that actually might
> > > > > have something to do with the war on terror: Afghanistan.
> > > > > We saw that Bush was determined to go ahead anyway.
> > > > > And we opposed it.
> >
> > > > > And by very early 2003 there were massive global protests, worldwide
> > > > > protests, even though "we weren't IN Iraq" at that point.
> >
> > > > > > We weren't IN Iraq in 2002. =A0So, the only war he could be referring =
> > > to
> > > > > > would be the war against Al Queda.
> >
> > > > > May I get a show of hands here? =A0Can we include this statement
> > > > > in Conspiracy Ken's Ten Greatest Leaps of Illogic?
> >
> > > > Wanna stay on topic? =A0We weren't in war in Iraq in 2002, and NO ONE
> > > > was, at that time, suggesting we go there. =A0We were still at war in
> > > > Afganistan, and it wasn't going that well. =A0So, the only war He could
> > > > have been protesting was the war against Al Quaeda.
> >
> > > > Kenneth Clifton
> > > > christiansuperhero.com- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > excuse me
> >
> > > bush first suggested invading iraq on january 29, 2002
> > >http://www.infoplease.com/spot/iraqtimeline2.html
> >
> > > the particual quote that upsets so much refers to Oct 11, 2002
> > > resolution that bush requested from congress which would have allowed
> > > him to invade iraq
> >
> > > ok
> >
> > > do you understand now.
> >
> > By my count, you're the third person to bring up the
> > "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002"
> > bill in response to Ken's "weren't in war in Iraq in 2002, and NO ONE
> > was, at that time, suggesting we go there".
> >
> > What we're missing now is any response from him.
> >
> > -- cary
>
> A resolution that requires the President to go through the UN for
> action, not to take action on his own...right?

This somehow supports your claim that we "weren't in war in Iraq in
2002, and NO ONE was, at that time, suggesting we go there"?

If so, I fail to see how.

> After all, the
> Democrats said later (multiple times) that this resolution DIDN'T
> authorize the war. Are you saying they were wrong?

That would depend on what was said. Provide me some verbatim
answers, and let us see.



-- cary