Group: alt.education
From: itsall_bull
Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Keep church and state separate, at least when the "church" is Islamic

On Mar 19, 1:06 pm, buckeye wrote:
> http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/article/2008/03/11/kersten-keep-church-a...
>
> Kersten: Keep church and state separate, at least when the "church" is
> Islamic
> By Andy Birkey , Minnesota Monitor
> March 14, 2008
>
> In yesterday's Strib, the ever-vigilant Katherine Kersten blew the whistle=

> on what she deems a disturbing violation of the doctrine of church/state
> separation by a local charter school founded by the Muslim American Societ=
y
> of Minnesota. "The line between religion and culture is often blurry,"
> warns Kersten. "Under the U.S. and state constitutions, a public school ca=
n
> accommodate students' religious beliefs but cannot encourage or endorse
> religion." The object of her disapproval is the Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy
> (TIZA) in Inver Grove Heights. "TIZA raises troubling issues about taxpaye=
r
> funding of schools that cross that line," she frets.
>
> But to paraphrase Orwell, Kersten appears to believe some separations of
> church and state are more equal than others.
>
> Last fall, Kersten wrote approvingly about the "classical curriculum" bein=
g
> used in several Twin Cities charter schools. The classical curriculum, it
> turns out, is tinged with Christianity. The group that brought the
> classical curriculum to Twin Cities charter schools is called the Friends
> of Ascension. Friends of Ascension got its start in 2003 when Ascension
> Academy was created on the grounds of the Ascension Catholic Church in
> Minneapolis, a move that raised eyebrows when the Minnesota Department of
> Education approved the "secular" charter school.
>
> The Friends of Ascension then began to open more charter schools throughou=
t
> the Twin Cities with a current total of 18 as of 2008. The classical
> curriculum model, which Kersten touted, has been implemented in about a
> half dozen of Friends' charter schools throughout the Twin Cities.
>
> The Society for Classical Learning, a national organization, says its
> mission is "to facilitate and encourage thinking and discussion among
> professionals associated with Christ-centered education in the liberal art=
s
> tradition... The Society is committed to historic Christianity as expresse=
d
> in the Nicene Creed and to exploring the relationship of Christ to the
> broader culture."
>
> The Nova Classical Academy, a Friends of Ascension charter school is a
> member of the Society for Classical Learning, uses a "classical
> curriculum," and accepted $1,113,730.65 in taxpayer money in the 2006-07
> school year.
>
> ***************************************************************
> You are invited to check out the following:
>
> The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~can=
dst/theocracy.htm
>
> American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/the=
ocrats.htm
>
> The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members=
.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
>
> [and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
> Church and State in general, listed below]
>
> HRSepCnS =B7 Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gro=
up/HRSepCnS/
>
> ***************************************************************
> . . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
> respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
> take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "=
a
> page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner=
,
> 256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
> Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
> . . .
> ****************************************************************
> USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
>
> "You pilot always into an unknown future;
> facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
>
> That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
> many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
>
> It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
> plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
> almost every media turn.
>
> *****************************************************************
> THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
> SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
>
> http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
> ****************************************************************

You need to learn something about Islam. Islam
is both "Church" and State. Shari'a law covers
all aspects of religious, secular and
political life. Iran is a perfect example of a
theocratic state run by the Mullahs, Islamic
clergy. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is merely a front
man for the Mullahs to convey their fatwas
to the Infidels of the world.

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