alt.education

On Feb 27, 1:39 am, PseuDoeCyAnts wrote:
> on Tue 26 Feb 2008 08:23:59a
> buckeye posted
> innews:vve8s3lm50m50jqqck9gvuta7rbac88nm8@4ax.com:
>
> > The following Christian site is offering on ebay a picture of
> > James Madsion, some thing showing the Great Seal along with a
> > signature of James Madison coupled with the infamous Ten
> > Commandment bogus quote attributed to Madison beginning at just
> > under 495.00
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3bhdgb
>
> > What a rip off.
>
> The clown's Jefferson quote is bogus too.
>
> From Monticello dot org:
>
>
> The one attributed to John Quincy Adams is dubious also.
>
> Maybe you can offer enlightenment on it.
>
> The revisionary merchant on Ebay lists the quote as:
>
> "So great is my veneration of the Bible,
> that the earlier my children begin to read it
> the more confident will be my hope
> that they will prove
> useful citizens of their country
> and respectable members of society."
>
> - - John Quincy Adams
>
> Big problem when searhing for the quote's attribution on the web
> though. The only place I found it footnoted and/or attributed,
>
> it was a bit longer, and was of a different parentage, literally:
>
> "Our Constitution was made only for a moral
> and religious people. So great is my veneration
> of the Bible that the earlier my children begin
> to read it, the more confident will be my hope
> that they will prove useful citizens of their
> country and respectful members of society."
>
> - - John Adams
>
> The footnote reads:
>
> Robert Ferrell,
> "The Adams Family: Four Generations of Patriots",
> (New York: Publius Press, 1969)
>
> If 1969 is the first noting of this quoteation,
> I find it hard to believe that even papa Adams said it.
> What I know of John Quincy Adam's authorship,
> makes be extremely sceptical that he wrote it.
>
> Another cause more me to think this is a dubious quotation, is
> that I also often find it with a triple ellipse inserted into it:
>
> "Our constitution was made only for a moral
> and religious people...so great is my veneration
> of the Bible that the earlier my children begin
> to read, the more confident will be my hope
> that they will prove useful citizens in their
> country and respectful members of society."
>
> - - John Adams
>
> This Google book return shows it attributed
> to J.Q. Adams with a dubious sourcing:
>
>
>
> The given source being:
> "compiled by Grant Jeffery"
>
> That may be good enough for ditto-heads
> who operate under blind faith pardigms,
> but I ain't buying it from Grant Jeffery
> without a more authoritarian citation:
>
>

I just found that twit's bio. You can tell it was written by
himself. What a 10 karat gold filled phony!

http://www.grantjeffrey.com/bio.htm