Group: alt.education
From: "thomas p."
Date: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: Holy race, "Generation chosen": America by God


"Jd" skrev i en meddelelse
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> thomas p. wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jd" skrev i en meddelelse
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>>> Bob LeChevalier wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jd wrote:
>>>>>Hundreds upon thousands of official documents dealing with the founding
>>>>>of America show that the
>>>>>founders were of the Judeo-Christian persuasion,
>>>>
>>>>There is no such thing as the "Judeo-Christian persuasion". Being of
>>>>English descent, they were of a culture that had elements based on
>>>>Protestant Christian culture (and others based on pagan cultures),
>>>>which in turn was based in part on medieval Catholic Christian
>>>>culture, which in turn had elements of Greek, Roman, Jewish and
>>>>Egyptian and pagan cultures.
>>>>
>>>>Having a cultural background tied to Christianity doesn't make them
>>>>Christians. Being Christian doesn't make their culture especially
>>>>Judeo-Christian.
>>>>
>>>>>"Dr. Donald S. Lutz, a professor of political philosophy at the
>>>>>University of Houston, conducted a
>>>>>massive groundbreaking study in which he examined some 15,000 documents
>>>>>written during America's
>>>>>founding era. He and his research associate, Dr. Charles Hyneman, found
>>>>>that a third of the
>>>>>quotations in these documents were from the Bible."
>>>>
>>>>People quote Shakespeare a lot too. Does that mean that they worship
>>>>the Bard?
>>>>
>>>>>"According to Lutz, the U.S. Constitution is a political document that
>>>>>is
>>>>>the product of a
>>>>>constitution-making tradition that can be traced to colonial charters
>>>>>and
>>>>>which is modeled on the
>>>>>biblical covenant-a solemn agreement between God and man."
>>>>
>>>>Colonial charters were a solemn agreement between king and subject.
>>>>Anything beyond that is speculation.
>>>>
>>>>>>Yes they did. Now how about the document that established the US?
>>>>>
>>>>>What, the Declaration of Idependence?
>>>>
>>>>The Constitution.
>>>>
>>>>The Declaration was just political propaganda.
>>>
>>> It is a Christian document which acknowledges that Jesus is the judge of
>>> all mankind.
>>
>>It does not even mention Jesus.
>
> Jesus is the Judge of all humans, therefore it does refer to Him. It is a
> Christian command to
> preach that Jesus is indeed the Supreme Judge of mankind, and his
> resurrection proved that He was
> who he said he was.

That is your belief. The document does not mention Jesus.



>
> Acts 10:42 "And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify
> that it is he which
> was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead."
>
> In fact, the founding fathers were actually appealing to Judge Jesus to
> help them free America from
> the English King who had assumed the title of "Defender of the Faith" .
>
> "We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in
> General Congress, assembled,
> appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our
> intentions, do, in the name,
> and by authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish
> and declare, That these
> United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent
> States..." Declaration of
> Independence July 4, 1776)

And neither Jesus nor the Bible are mentioned.

>
> Jd
>
> "Is not my word like as a fire? saith the Lord; and like a hammer that
> breaketh the rock in pieces?"
> (Jeremiah 23:29)
>

A man wrote that. The US Constitution forbids the US government to
recognize any religion.