alt.education

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:45:31 +0000 in
>m271t3pii2a4rhe8drkpf09kkne0olfpv7@4ax.com, Jd wrote:
>
>> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:09:58 +0000 in
>>>g8kus3d1f4ij0nehbci4vvppisea3qhanf@4ax.com, Jd
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> thomas p. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, once again, no matter what some of the founders thought or said,
>>>>> the country was established on firmly
>>>>>secular grounds.
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't make any sense. The founding fathers founded the country
>>>> so it does indeed matter what they said and thought.
>>>
>>>Dimwit, what they *wrote* is what governs us now. Not what they happened
>>>to "think" about something. While what they "thought" may give insight
>>>into what they wrote, the words of the Constitution are what govern this
>>>nation.
>>>
>>>And the Constitution is secular. Whatever they "thought" about gods,
>>>they *wrote* a secular document.
>>
>> The Declaration of Independence is not a secular document.
>>
>> George Washington's first inaugural address is not a secular document.
>
>Neither of which are the governing law of the United States.

God rules the world.

Psalms 24:1 "The earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell
therein."

Romans 13:1 "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the
powers that be are ordained of God."

>
>
>> There are hundereds if not thousands of Governmental documents that are
>> not secular.
>
>Because politicians *never* pander.
>
>> But you simply cannot deny that America was indeed founded by "faith" in
>> God and that the founders statements which are a matter of public
>> record, prove that beyond any doubt.
>
>
>
>There is not a single aspect of our Constitution that can be found in
>Judeo-Christianity. You people keep spewing this crap about "faith" and
>"god" and all but you cannot show how the Constitution can be derived
>from the bible or any such thing.
>
>You are, simply put, full of shit. The actual record of the writing of
>the Constitution shows its origins to clearly be British common law,
>Greco-Roman law, and some strong Native American influence (particularly
>the Iroquois). Nobody cited the babble and used that to craft any part of
>our Constitution.

Says who? You? You'd be better off in the long run if you would steer clear of gossipy
women and jester fags.

>In fact, the Christianity of the day was neck deep in "divine right of
>kings" and state religions. Our revolution was in part a rebellion
>*against* the Christianity of the day. For decades after the founding of
>the US, the churches--particularly the RCC--condemned the US as being "in
>error" for ideas such as democracy, freedom of religion, and separation
>of church and state.

More hearsay and gossip. Did some ghost tell you that or was it the aliens in the mother ship
which abducted and brainwashed you? Perhaps you recently read something on a ACLU website link?
Yeah that's it www.lies.com .

>What you're pushing is barely worthwhile as fertilizer for roses...

Well yeah, I can understand how and why you might be ingorant of historical facts.
The slave mentality has caused you to be blinded to anything other than your own personal
victimhood. You must 'resist tha' masta' no mater what and by any means possible.

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin." Jesus (John 8:34)

Jd

"But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of judgment, and of might, to declare
unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin." (Micah 3:8)