Group: alt.education
From: "thomas p."
Date: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Holy race, "Generation chosen": America by God


"Mark K. Bilbo" skrev i en meddelelse
news:59h6a5-ro.ln1@dialup-4.230.135.222.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net...
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:45:29 +0000 in
> tt41t31tknjmda9d8t438h4a8nrmplprqq@4ax.com, Jd wrote:
>
>> thomas p. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Jd" skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:g8kus3d1f4ij0nehbci4vvppisea3qhanf@4ax.com...
>>>> thomas p. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, once again, no matter what some of the founders thought or said,
>>>>> the
>>>>> country was established on firmly
>>>>>secular grounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't make any sense. The founding fathers founded the country
>>>> so it does indeed matter what
>>>> they said and thought. Undoubtedly, they thought God had a hand in
>>>> founding the Nation since
>>>> afterall, that is what they said.
>>>
>>>
>>>What they actually wrote down and that became accepted as the founding
>>>document for the US is what matters. Some of the founders you talk
>>>about were deists, not Christians. Some rejected the divinity of Jesus
>>>(all the deists and some of the others). Some were Christians. The
>>>document itself reflected the thoughts of men such as Montesquieu,
>>>Dederot, Voltaire, Rousseau, none of these were Christians; and no part
>>>of the document is Christian; it is purely secular.
>>
>> What document are you referring to? There are a plethora of documents
>> which do indeed mention God.
>>
>> If you are referring to the US Constitution, vitually all 55 of the
>> authors/signers were Christians of one denomination or another....
>
> Oh look, he just noticed the Constitution doesn't yap about "god" so he's
> gotta make a sudden swerve into "But they said 'god' at other times!"


He also was good enough to inform me that the American colonies were under
British rule. Gosh, you learn something new every day.

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