alt.education

"Jd" skrev i en meddelelse
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> thomas p. wrote:
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>>"Jd" skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:ll6cs3pu810udlc00nr1qq2kpnk5uucshj@4ax.com...
>>> re: "How many of the founding fathers were 1)muslims 2) hindus 3)
>>> buddhists or 4) wiccans?" (Jd)
>>>
>>> thomas p. wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>What difference does it make what they were? The Constitution is still
>>>>the
>>>>founding document. It still says nothing about any god. It still says
>>>>"We
>>>>the people" founded the nation, and that still includes people who are
>>>>not
>>>>Christian. Anybody can have a personal opinion including those called
>>>>"the
>>>>Founding Fathers". It does not change the fact that Christianity is not
>>>>mentioned in the document or that freedom of religion, democracy etc.
>>>>are
>>>>not Judeo-Christian principles.
>>>
>>
>>> As I've shown, Christian Founding Fathers attributed part of the
>>> "founding" to God. That is an
>>> undeniable fact. T
>>
>>It is also irrelevant if they did.
>>
>>
>>he non-Christian aspects you are referring to were intentionally set so as
>>to
>>> prevent false prophets from taking the reins of government and lording
>>> over men.
>>
>>
>>There were no Christian "aspects".
>>
>>snip of more of the same. People have the right to think what they want
>>and
>>say what they want, it does not make it true.
>>
>
> Sure it does. All of the undeniable proof I've shown proves beyond any
> doubt that America was
> founded by Christians who believed that God had a hand in the founding of
> America.
>

They were not all Christians. Jefferson, Franklin and others were deists,
but, once again, that is irrelevant. What they believed was not reflected
in the founding document, i.e. the US Constitution. The ideas in that
document reflect the ideas of the Enlightenment, the ideas of such men as
Montesquieu, Voltaire, Rousseau etc. None of them was Christian, on the
contrary. Ideas such as freedom of religion, of the press, individual
rights have nothing to do with Christianity. So, once again, no matter what
some of the founders thought or said, the country was established on firmly
secular grounds.


> Since you obviously have no contridictory evidence, our conversation is
> about done.
>
> "Anno Domini" - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "Anno Domini Nostri
> Iesu Christi ("In the
> Year of Our Lord Jesus Christ"), commonly shortened to Anno Domini ("In
> the Year of the Lord"),
> abbreviated as AD or A.D., is the designation used to number years in the
> Christian Era,
> conventionally used with the Julian and Gregorian calendars. It defines an
> epoch based on the
> traditionally-reckoned year of the birth of Jesus. BC (Before Christ) is
> now usually used to denote
> years before Anno Domini years in English."
>
> So for my next thread I might show how the entire planet falls under the
> "Christian era" since
> calendars everywhere are based on the Christian timetable.
>
> Then again I may get into the wages of sin coupled with some thoughts on
> the great, end time
> apostacy as foretold in the bible.....
>
> Jd
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Babble away. The US is still a free country. You better hurry though; the
Christians are doing their best to wipe out that freedom. The attempt to
rewrite history is part of that effort.