alt.education

On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:26:37 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:

>
>"Bob LeChevalier" wrote in message
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>> "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
>>>"4012 Dead" wrote in message
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>>>> Here's a little quiz for you: how many of the commandments are encoded
>>>> in US law, or would even be found constitutional if they were?
>>>
>>>Nobody is asking for them to be codefied. They are in law though, such as
>>>the laws against murder, lying, cheating, adultry, to name a few.
>>
>> There are no laws against murder in self-defense or for soldiers in
>> war (the commandment lists no exceptions).
>
>Murder in self defense is not murder. War is not murder.
>
>The Commandments do not admonish against killing, they admonish against
>murder.

So then "killing" is dependent on how you interpret it,
or under what conditions it's proscribed?


>> There are no laws against lying (there are laws against perjury and
>> fraud, and libel/slander, each of which usually involves a kind of
>> lying, but not against the general behavior of lying (or bearing false
>> witness).
>>
>
>Now you are splitting hairs.

The "Law" IS about "splitting hairs", Jeffy

>> There are no laws against cheating, and in most states (and not at the
>> Federal level at all) there are no laws against adultery.
>>
>>>We have lots of laws that codefy some of the tenents in the 10
>>>Commandments.
>>
>> We have NO laws that codify commandments. We have laws that make
>> certain behaviors illegal, and all of those laws are based on
>> non-Biblical criteria and justification.
>>
>
>Well you say that, but they are still in the Commandments.

The commandments are not law.

>>>Surely you do not suggest we wipe the books clean of laws having to do
>>>with
>>>murder or bank robbery because these topics are included in the 10
>>>Commandments.
>>
>> The 10 commandments are utterly irrelevant to our laws. They should
>> remain so.
>>
>
>The display of the 10 Commandments is never bad. You might not like them,
>and you got your buddies at the ACLU to go along, but they are never bad,
>and we need justices with a spine.

Conversely, the display of the commandments provide no
credible evidence that the act of displaying them does
any good

Every courthouse in the south where blacks were jailed
prior to be taken out to be lynched, beaten had a copy
of the commandments prominently displayed.

Above the judge who routinely gave blacks harsh
sentences, or were railroaded to long prison terms,
were the commandments.