alt.energy.renewable

"Balanced View" wrote in message
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> mcs wrote:
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>>>>>>> http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
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>>>>>> 60 percent of all farmable land in the world is not even utilized,
>>>>>> till they
>>>>>> utilize that get back to me with your pro oil agenda.
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>>>>> Wanting to end near worldwide food protests over increasing prices
>>>>> and in some places, shortages, is *not* "pro-oil".
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>>>>> It surely isn't pro USA or anti bankruptcy via oil agenda thats for
>>>>> sure. The high costs of most everything right now including corn and
>>>>> almost everything stems for high cost of oil
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>>>> The anti bio mass and etanol study has to be weighed by who is writing
>>>> this mess of articles and why Like I alluded for five years the dangers
>>>> of particulate pollution and diesel and partuclate pollution from coal
>>>> fuel has not been written about or played out on the news so why all of
>>>> a sudden this mass protest of bio fuels? Now is there a legitmate
>>>> answers to my questions? These same scientiests had been nowhere when
>>>> it came to dangers of pollution . For five years I was protesting the
>>>> dangers. Where were these people when real us students were getting
>>>> asthma? When every conceivable association between pollution and those
>>>> that don't get pollution were not talked about?
>>>> So pardon me if I don't believe given the simple fact when I look
>>>> outside my windown traveling to the burbs most land is not utilized at
>>>> all! AT ALL be it on private land or gov land or protect parks etc,
>>>> most land in the US is not used for switchgrass , bio mass and bio
>>>> fuel. I have a hard time believing all of sudden bio mass is not
>>>> suppose to be an option and some people know its costs are too high. I
>>>> doubt it!!!!!!!!
>>>> How about hydrogen electircity. by the way?
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>>> This argument has been discussed here many times, If you took every
>>> piece of arable land in the USA it would
>>> not be enough to grow biofuel to meet even 25% of current usage.
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>> can you show me a link to that information. In order to deduct that logic
>> you would have to know how every company was going to convert their
>> biomass which of course you or they don't!!! . Would that apply to waste
>> material and tires and sea weed or whateer they propose to use also?I
>> have a hard time believing that line!
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> You don't need to "know how every company was going to convert their
> biomass". It's a simple matter
> of amount of arable land, available water and production per acre. There
> is also the problem of fossil fuel
> inputs needed to keep production up. If you are really interested Google
> the topic on Google groups.
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>> Plus even if they can get 25 percent of our energy needs that way whats
>> wrong with that?
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> LOL...Because if you use every inch of land for biofuel you have none for
> food production.


Your assuming I believe that figure and I don't.
I just saw three videos about bio fuel and its incredible not one thing
about rise in oil prices. You think thats objective
One can easily argue which came first the rise in oil or countries who
reacted to that rise by looking for alternatives? One can just as easily
blame the rise in oil. Oil companies can keep rising prices and then blame
the wheat and corn producers and have a producers say its our fault.