Group: alt.energy.renewable
From: "Arnold Walker"
Date: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: Chevy Volt Moves Closer To Production


"Ron Purvis" wrote in message
news:oXx3j.19686$K27.2875@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Eeyore" wrote in message
> news:474D310A.8D6CD365@hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>> Ron Purvis wrote:
>>
>>> "Eeyore" wrote
>>> > Ron Purvis wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> If we can find some way to make carbon fiber much more economically
>>> >> then
>>> >> we could easily cut the body weight by more more than 50%.
>>> >
>>> > Have you any idea how damn expensive and time consuming to make it is
>>> > ?
>>>
>>> Read the post where I said that I watched a show about new car
>>> technology
>>> saying they have a new process that cuts the time down drastically. I
>>> know
>>> that currently it is expensive and time consuming, but this new process
>>> is
>>> supposed to change that. Further it is not just theoretical, but they
>>> actually showed it being done on the show. I don't remember all the
>>> details,
>>> but they specifically talked about this new process making it possible
>>> to
>>> use carbon fiber for normal cars and that it would be economically
>>> feasible
>>> as well as being able to produce enough to keep up with the demand.
>>
>> I do not treat ANY TV show as a reliable indicator of ANYTHING. The
>> presenters
>> these days are completely clueless and the 'reseachers' little better.
>> I've
>> considered keeping a log of the number of direct lies told by the
>> Discovery
>> Channel for example.
>>
>> Whatever you say, it takes ages for resins to set and this time costs
>> money. The
>> resulting carbon fibre parts require extensive human handling and
>> finishing too.
>> Such a process is inherently incompatible with large scale manufacture.
>> In
>> comparison you can turn out stamped steel sheet body parts in a couple of
>> seconds each.
>>
>> Get real please and stop pipe-dreaming.
>>
>
> I suggest that you contact fiberforge and tell them that there procedure
> doesn't work just because it was on the science channel. They have
> developed a method to cut down on the human handling required drastically
> as well as the amount of time needed for each step. They are talking about
> doing large scale manufacturing with carbon fiber. Of course since you say
> it can't be done, we have to believe that. Just like when you say nothing
> else can be done.
Aviation and boating has done large scale for years....so what is unusual
about large
scale layups.Many of the race boats and military aircraft are from carbon
fiber,as well.
And it is expensive.....