Group: alt.education
From: Raymond
Date: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS: Superintendent's orders to worried dad: Butt out! Elementary lessons on 'gay' issues now tied to reading, social studies.

On Apr 8, 7:59=A0pm, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> Raymond wrote:
> >Sorry to post at the top, but after reading this, it would seem if one
> >is Gay they have a right to have their view taught in School,
>
> No. =A0But it certainly is within state authority to decide what secular
> views will be taught in state schools.

I agree with that, only not for one teacher to teach what the
authority did not give permission to teach. PTA meetings mostly see
what the school is going to teach and OK or reject it in state
schools. The non-government school is another story, if the public
is paying the bill then they should have a say in the matter. The
teach is paid and should not teach what is not in the accepted books
decided on by the school. If one wants to teach communism in grade
school as the only true free way of life, how many would dump that
teacher out the door, except if they live in China.

>
> >but if one is a Christian, or follow religion they can not.
>
> Religious views cannot be taught in public schools, because they are
> ... religious. =A0If you have a basis other than your particular belief
> system, then perhaps you have something worth teaching. =A0Otherwise
> what you believe is no one's business but your own, and the state has
> no business fostering otherwise.

To some gay views are religious views as that is where the argument
about homosexuality started from. For or against is a form of
religion and as such neither should be taught, then what people do in
their homes and in bed, is no ones business and why children need to
hear about it, is wrong. I believe you hit it on the head only since
gay is a teaching most churches preach about as sin, it is religious
and the gay has no right to teach their form of religion either.

>
> >Seems that the Law that lets people say their kids can not hear of god,
>
> Nothing stops their kids from hearing of God. =A0They have mouths of
> their own, don't they? =A0They have no right to expect the state to
> speak of God to their kids.

The point really is not about God as nothing stops the kids from
hearing about homosexual or gay life, but they should not hear about
such in school, why does it seem the gay thinks they have some right
to expect the state to let them speak of being Gay, when the Believer
of what ever religon can not?

>
> >would apply to them that do not want their kids in school to learn of the=

> >homosexual teachings either. =A0What gives here?
>
> Homosexuality is not religion. =A0There is no "separation of sexual
> preference and state" in the Constitution, either stated or implied.

Sure it is a religion they have followers they claim rights, they want
people to obey them and teach that what they do is not sin, and sin is
a religious viewpoint. Sure there is a separation of sexual
preferences male or female what will it be. I never heard of a gay
person that was not a man or a woman, never some 3rd freak something
with sex organs that are not like the male or female. The
constitution was made for humans and it is implied, humans make babies
because they are male and female, if one follows the gay line there be
no children or humans made, as they would not do as human normal
people do, and create babies.

>
> If people don't want their kids in public schools, then they have to
> meet the alternative requirements for compulsory education. =A0There are
> religious schools in every state. =A0But eccentric choices do cost
> money.

So does owning a home and paying taxes that goes to schools if you
have children or not.

>
> >When I was went to
> >school the books used to teach the children had to be approved by the
> >B of Education and the teacher could not teach stuff that was no
> >accepted by the curriculum.
>
> That is still the case.

If that be so, why is this being posted and why is that teacher not
fired? Or was he/she fired. Nothing meant by my he/she just did not
get the name of the teacher male or female.

>
> What makes you think that what is being taught isn't part of the
> officially approved curriculum of the state in question?

I never heard it was, so what makes you think it is? I sure some
reader would love to find out what official in what State approved
such curriculum, I sure would, since if they approved such, they
better approve also that the church can give its view on this matter
as it is matter of faith, sin and what our children will learn and
what will happen in their life.


>
> lojbab

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