Darrell Stec
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>:|What makes you thing that person knows what they are talking about? And why
>:|would I want to go to yet another free for all forum, and a Yahoo one at
>:|that?
Well. he has been a member of that group for some time. He posts somewhat
regular. I read his posts. I have been told I know a thing or two about
Church state etc. If that is true, then I would have the ability to
recognize when someone else is intelligent and knows what they are
talking about.
On top of that I have done a little research on this topic as well
This needs updated with regards to the court cases since it was originally
written
* The Ten Commandments Issues
o The Complete Ten Commandments, a Study Guide
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/10commsg.htm
Because it is a neat group with some neat people including one member who
is a Sep Church and State icon.
Most of those who participate there are pretty smart when it comes to
church state topics, history etc.
It isn't a free for all group at all, no personal attacks, no insults, etc
permitted. Being a Yahoo group you can read and reply from your email in
box and never actually log on to the group itself.
But your choice I am not going to lose any sleep over it
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>:|If you actually opened up the bible and read it the Commandments in Exodus
>:|34 are the only ones where the verses call them the ten commandments and
>:|the only ones that scripture say are an exact copies of the tablets that
>:|were destroyed. Furthermore they are the only ones that scripture says
>:|were placed in the Ark of the Covenant as a covenant between Yahweh and his
>:|people.
>:|
>:|Neither the Exodus 20 verses nor their counterpart in Deuteronomy say they
>:|are the ten commandments nor a copy of them. Nor did they make it into the
>:|Ark of the Covenant. In fact the very first 'commandment' of these dubious
>:|impostors is not even a commandment all. It is a declaration. And those
>:|Exodus 20 verse have been variously broken down into 3, 5, 6, 8, 13 and 16
>:|rules by different rabbis and to 2 by Joshusa in the NT.
>:|
>:|To sum up, your so called expert cannot get around Exodus 34 claiming to be
>:|an exact duplicate of the first set of tablets god said he carved; cannot
>:|get around Exodus 34 claiming to be the Ten Commandments while neither of
>:|the others do; and cannot get around Exodus 34 claiming to be the set that
>:|was placed in the Ark of the Covenant. In calling my post amusing and
>:|creative your so called expert Jimmy demonstrates that he is a creative
>:|modern revisionist.
>:|
>:|You don't have to bother me with his reply. I am not new to the study of
>:|scripture and am familiar with the fundamentalists of every ilk and their
>:|party line. And it does not matter how many copies of misinformation one
>:|can point to, it was wrong the first time and it will still be wrong the
>:|two hundred millionth time.
We are having a discussion. You don't like discussions? If you don't why
did you post in the first place?
We were expected to just take what you said as gospel?
There may be others who didn't agree with you. You have a problem with
that. Sounds like you are gonna take your ball and bat and go home.
Chill out and let the discussion proceed.
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS ยท Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
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. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
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That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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