alt.education

PseuDoeCyAnts wrote:

> on Thu 27 Mar 2008 09:44:16a
> Darrell Stec posted
> in news:47ebcee0$0$12590$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> buckeye wrote:
>>
>>> The author of The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen
>>> Colonies wouldn't agree that our laws and our government are
>>> based on the Ten Commandments. Thomas Jefferson criticized the
>>> notion that Christianity had any part in it. He argued that the
>>> common law of England – the basis of the laws of the colonies
>>> – couldn't have been influenced by Christianity, much less
>>> the Ten Commandments. His argument? The common law existed in
>>> England for 200 years before Christianity arrived there. His
>>> conclusion? "Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of
>>> the common law."
>>
> [- snip - ]
>>
>> I hope you realize, Buckeye, that I was not directing my
>> comments toward you but rather that idiot Antoinin Scalia and
>> those of his ilk.
>>
>
> Scalia does not desire this nation's return to its religious
> foundations. In that scenario, those who swallow the Papal Bull
> with the concomitant Diet of Worms, are not embraced or welcomed
> in under the warm and fuzzy delusive tent of a Christian gestalt.
>
> Catholics were largely outcasts in Revolutionary era America,
> distrusted by many, not often believed to be friends of liberty,
> as they believed that a human, who headed a Christian sect,
> possessed the power, sceptered divinely, to dictate laws and to
> crown the heads of foreign states.
>
> Samuel Adams even went as far as to assert that because of this,
> Roman Catholics did no even deserve their religion to be tolerated
> in America.
>
> /=======================================================/
>
> "In regard to Religeon, mutual tolleration in the
> different professions thereof, is what all good and
> candid minds in all ages have ever practiced; and both
> by precept and example inculcated on mankind: And it is
> now generally agreed among christians that this spirit
> of toleration in the fullest extent consistent with the
> being of civil society "is the chief characteristical
> mark of the true church' & In so much that Mr. Lock has
> asserted, and proved beyond the possibility of
> contradiction on any solid ground, that such toleration
> ought to be extended to all whose doctrines are not
> subversive of society. The only Sects which he thinks
> ought to be, and which by all wise laws are excluded
> from such toleration, are those who teach Doctrines
> subversive of the Civil Government under which they
> live. The Roman Catholicks or Papists are excluded by
> reason of such Doctrines as these 'that Princes
> excommunicated may be deposed, and those they call
> Hereticks may be destroyed without mercy; besides their
> recognizing the Pope in so absolute a manner, in
> subversion of Government, by introducing as far as
> possible into the states, under whose protection they
> enjoy life, liberty and property, that solecism in
> politicks, Imperium in imperio leading directly to the
> worst anarchy and confusion, civil discord, war and
> blood shed
>
>
> Samuel Adams, "The Rights of the Colonists", Nov. 20, 1772
>
> /=======================================================/
>
> The truth is that:
> There Was Never In The Past;
> Or Is there Presently;
> Nor Will There Ever Be;
> A State Founded Upon Christianity,
> which is not also plagued with sectarianism.
> The schisms are far too numerous and broad to ever be breeched.
>
> Christians cannot even agree upon the same Bible,
> or whether Jesus' inherited 1/2 of his DNA from mom,
> or if salvation comes through faith and acts,
> or instead by faith alone.
>
> For all three of the above differences, in the past
> Christians have murderously set upon Christians.
> All sides in these conflicts believed theirs alone
> had been given the divine right to kill humans justly;
> "Thou Shal Not Kill", notwithstanding.
>
> Yet from within this bedlam, this foul pit of pandemonium,
> which is the actuality of their "shared" faith,
> they have the audacity to claim,
> they are endowed with a higher morality,
> and as such, the best to lead The Nation politically.


Yet you forget that one had to be Catholic to own property in Maryland. You
also forgot Oglethorpe's Georgia.

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