Group: alt.education
From: Gunny Freedom
Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Almost ALL Presidents Had Executive Experience (why Huckabee should be Pres)

In article ,
"Dennis Kemmerer" wrote:

> "Gunny Freedom" wrote in message
> news:glen42-AAF14E.23211226022008@johnf2.biosci.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article ,
> > "Dennis Kemmerer" wrote:
> >
> >> "Gunny Freedom" wrote in message
> >> news:glen42-B15B05.21491326022008@johnf2.biosci.ohio-state.edu...
> >> > In article ,
> >> > Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Gunny Freedom wrote:
> >> >> >Neither Huckabee or McCain has any hope of defeating a Democrat in
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >General. Only Ron Paul has the appeal to go head to head against a
> >> >> >Democrat in the General election.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ron Paul vs either leading Democrat probably wouldn't clear 35%
> >> >> popular vote and get zero electoral votes. Half the Republican party
> >> >> would desert or stay home.
> >> >>
> >> >> He's even more of a loser than Huckabee, who at least has won a couple
> >> >> of states, whereas I don't think Paul has even made 2nd place in any
> >> >> state.
> >> >>
> >> >> lojbab
> >> >
> >> > Actually, you are mistaken. when I was canvassing, i encountered
> >> > better
> >> > than 35% of people who said they would vote for Ron Paul if they
> >> > thought
> >> > he could win.
> >>
> >> So can we assume the other 65% said they would vote for someone else even
> >> if
> >> they thought Paul could win?
> >
> > No, only about 20% were opposed to a Paul presidency, 15% were
> > ambivalent, and 30% did not share any opinions at all. You haven't done
> > a lot of canvassing, have you?
>
> 'Canvassing' and 'polling' don't have comparable statistical validity. Care
> to publish your methodology?
>
> >> > The only reason they did not, is because the Mainstream
> >> > Media had convinced them that he could not win.
> >>
> >> They're right.
> >
> > According to the word of almighty Dennis?
>
> According to any reputable poll.

You mean like Frank Luntz, who stated outright that his job was not to
find public opinion, but to get the answer that the people buying the
polls want?

> >> > According to Rasmussen
> >> > polls, Ron Paul also has more attraction amongst Democrats than any
> >> > other Republican running.
> >>
> >> Rasmussen also has Paul losing to Clinton 49% to 37% and losing to Obama
> >> 50%
> >> to 31%.
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >
> > which was mainly due to lack of name recognition, on account of a media
> > blackout.
>
> Ah, so it's a media conspiracy. Take an elementary political science course.
> It's called 'newsworthiness.'

Haha! The man who beats Guiliani in every primary but one, gets 10% of
his coverage? yeahhhh surrree, and the fact that MSNBC is owned by the
same GE making TRILLIONS of dollars off of the war has NOTHING to do
with it I am sure.

> Stuff the attempts at condescension. You're not that smart.
>
> [snip preaching]

Ad Hominems are the last resort of someone without a valid argument. 8-)
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