alt.energy.renewable

Hi Radium;

radium001@gmail.com wrote:

> As a now global civilization we are coming to the point
> where our very survival will depend upon the technology
> that is currently locked up in patents.

Really, please give us some examples. Examples where the
viable technology was suppressed and not allowed to do to
market.

> Many of these are not being used for many different reasons.
> Inventors tend to want to do it all themselves so they hold
> on tight to their patents even though most of them never
> find the capitol to implement them.

Well, be an investor and help them get the invention to
market. What are you waiting for?
Remember, all the information is there for all to read.
I can read it here:
http://www.google.com/patents
http://www.google.com/advanced_patent_search
Why can't you read them.
If you want to pursue these ideas contact the patent holder
and make a deal.

> If a technology is a threat to an existing large industry
> it is often bought out and then shelved simply because
> they have already invested billions in the old technology.

That is not legally permitted. If you can show that a patent
holder is "shelving" an invention then the patent reverts to
the public domain. Then anyone can use it, even you.

> The military and spy agencies often buy out and classify
> inventions that could revolutionize particular industries
> and sometimes the world. By so doing, The often retard the
> development of the state of the art for decades.

Well at most 20 years. After that time the invention is in
the public domain and anyone can use it, even you.

> Governmental organizations tend to use a patent that has
> a broad range of potential applications for a single
> application and then forgets about it.

Maybe they forgot about it but you don't have to.
Just use it.

> Even the few technologies that make it to market are often
> applied in such a narrow way or on such a small scale
> as to have little or no impact. What a waste!!!

To whom? You could use the broader intent. Make a good
product and bring it to market. At worst case you will need
to pay royalties. I would be happy to pay royalties on a
product I'm making profits on. What's the problem?
Remember, the royalties are required to be reasonable, not
so high as to suppress the idea, that would not be legal.

> Another way current patent law hurts the greater good is
> that applications that require multiple patented technologies
> are often impossible to implement because of either high
> legal overhead or the fact that many patent holders often
> want it all and/or just won't play ball. Patents are often
> not commercializable on their own or are better when be
> couple with other patented technologies.

See above.

> If we are to survive we need to be able to use something
> like eminent domain to open up energy technology to everyone,
> or have an "if you don't use it you loose it" policy for all
> patents.

What's new, this is current law.

> Also patent hoarding for "premium" markets should not be
> allowed.

It isn't now, where have you been?

> Anything that is not mass produced for public consumption
> should be opened up to competition.

It is now, actually even better, the non developed patent is
open to anyone.

> When that happens however, the patent holders should get
> paid a % off the back end.

Not if they were attempting to sit on it. They just loose
the rights to it.

> We need to wake up and recognize that the simplistic
> technology ownership dynamics of yesteryear no longer work
> in a rapidly evolving global techiculture.

You are aware that patents from about 1988 and earlier are
now in the public domain don't you?

> PS. I could not get your link to work.

You should try this link:
http://www.enertia.com/

If a patent was sought, and I think one was granted, that
the time has run out and is now public domain

> On Jan 26, 9:00 pm, "jim" wrote:

> > Here's a great idea for building more energy-efficient homes.
> > And, as a fellow inventor, I understand the use of patents
> > quite well. But, when it comes down to a patented concept
> > that could do so much good to reduce the increasing need for
> > energy in heating and cooling homes, I sometimes wonder if the
> > greater good would not be served by some public or private
> > program to compensate the inventors and release it to the
> > general public.

> > http://www.enertia.com/Science/HowItWorks/tabid/68/Default.aspx

> > jim

Duane

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