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veritas wrote:

>:|On Apr 4, 11:52 am, buckeye wrote:
>:|> veritas wrote:
>:|> >:|

>:|> >:|A simpler way of putting it was that Jefferson was probably a stone
>:|> >:|agnostic, disliked the clergy so much that if a clergyman showed up in
>:|> >:|a room with Jefferson, he would leave the room.  If you read the law
>:|> >:|on freedom of religion written by Jefferson as a law in Virginia, you
>:|> >:|will see the real bitterness he held toward churches and the clergy.
>:|> >:|I have read a few of his letters to his friends, and one to his son-in-
>:|> >:|law blasting him for leaving the Virginia law in committee to long.
>:|> >:|He was so proud of that law, it is included on his gravestone, along
>:|> >:|with the Declaration and the founding of the University of Virginia.
>:|> >:|At the least, he was a deist, as were most of the founders.  They
>:|> >:|would not share power with churches.
>:|> >:|Regards, Ken Hogan
>:|>
>:|> Much of the above is incorrect


>:|Everything I said above is correct, I've read the letters, I studied
>:|Jeffereson for many years, and his correspondence, and I am correct in
>:|everything I said. All you have to do is look up the letters, read
>:|the Virginia law, and see for yourself. None of them had any
>:|intention of any church have any say in the government. Jefferson in
>:|his private letters says it plainly, and Morris wrote him a letter
>:|telling him that as a close friend of Washington, he knwe that
>:|Washington felt the exact same way. It's all there for you to read.
>:|Regards, Ken Hogan

Sorry, your comments are full or errors
Jefferson was not agnostic. he was quite religious in his own personal way.

He frequently gave money to churches and had a number of personal friends
who were clergy. They visited him at his residence and dined with him there


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256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
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