alt.education

On Apr 4, 11:52=A0am, buckeye wrote:
> veritas wrote:
> >:|
> >:|A simpler way of putting it was that Jefferson was probably a stone
> >:|agnostic, disliked the clergy so much that if a clergyman showed up in
> >:|a room with Jefferson, he would leave the room. =A0If you read the law
> >:|on freedom of religion written by Jefferson as a law in Virginia, you
> >:|will see the real bitterness he held toward churches and the clergy.
> >:|I have read a few of his letters to his friends, and one to his son-in-=

> >:|law blasting him for leaving the Virginia law in committee to long.
> >:|He was so proud of that law, it is included on his gravestone, along
> >:|with the Declaration and the founding of the University of Virginia.
> >:|At the least, he was a deist, as were most of the founders. =A0They
> >:|would not share power with churches.
> >:|Regards, Ken Hogan
>
> Much of the above is incorrect
>
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> You are invited to check out the following:
>
> The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~can=
dst/theocracy.htm
>
> American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/the=
ocrats.htm
>
> The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members=
.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
>
> [and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
> Church and State in general, listed below]
>
> HRSepCnS =B7 Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gro=
up/HRSepCnS/
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> . . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
> respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. =A0Word=
s
> take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "=
a
> page of history is worth a volume of logic." =A0New York Trust Co. v. Eisn=
er,
> 256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
> Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
> . . .
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> USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
>
> "You pilot always into an unknown future;
> facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
>
> That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
> many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
>
> It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
> plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
> almost every media turn.
>
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> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
> =A0 =A0 SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
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> http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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Everything I said above is correct, I've read the letters, I studied
Jeffereson for many years, and his correspondence, and I am correct in
everything I said. All you have to do is look up the letters, read
the Virginia law, and see for yourself. None of them had any
intention of any church have any say in the government. Jefferson in
his private letters says it plainly, and Morris wrote him a letter
telling him that as a close friend of Washington, he knwe that
Washington felt the exact same way. It's all there for you to read.
Regards, Ken Hogan