alt.education

On Apr 2, 11:05=A0am, buckeye wrote:
> Peter Franks wrote:
> >:|mizlee wrote:
> >:|> Wrong again. =A0The Declaration of Independence was an "internal memo=
"
> >:|> to the king, essentially saying "we're sick and tired, and we're not
> >:|> going to take it any more." =A0It was NOT a document of law at all.
> >:|
> >:|What is the foundation of the law?
>
> LOL. Why doesn't the above surprise me.
> The never ending questions
>
> Foundation of what or which law?
>
> I wonder if you realize that the Constitutiin was "illegal."
>
> Here for your education:
>
> The Declaration of Independence (1776)
> =A0 =A0 * Introduction
>
> =A0 =A0 * Declaration of Independence: Its Purposehttp://members.tripod.co=
m/~candst/doipurp.htm
>
> =A0 =A0 * Jefferson's Declaration of Independence did not use the word
> "Creator"http://members.tripod.com/~candst/doitj.htm
>
> =A0 =A0 * Lincoln's reinventing of the Declaration of Independence
>
> =A0 =A0 * The United States Supreme Court and the Declaration of Independe=
ncehttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/doisussc.htm
>
> =A0 =A0 * An analysis of the Declaration of Independence
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 o Declaration of Independence: Preamblehttp://members.=
tripod.com/~candst/doi-pream.htm
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 o Declaration of Independence is not lawhttp://members=
.tripod.com/~candst/doinotlaw.htm
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 o The Declaration of Independence Didn't Create Indepe=
ndence,
> Didn't "Found" Anything, Didn't Separate Anything: It Was an Explanationht=
tp://members.tripod.com/~candst/doiexplain.htm
>
> "Founding" Documents and Religion (1776-1791)
>
> =A0 =A0 * Founding Documents and Religion, DOI, AOC, Constitution, BORs
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 o A Big Fuss Over Nothing: An analysis of real and ima=
gined
> references to God, Christianity and Religion and lack thereof in obvious
> places in five documents from the founding period of our history: the
> Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, Northwest
> Ordinance, Federalist Papers, Constitution of the United Stateshttp://memb=
ers.tripod.com/~candst/bigfuss.htm
>
> ***************************************************************
> You are invited to check out the following:
>
> The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~can=
dst/theocracy.htm
>
> American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/the=
ocrats.htm
>
> The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members=
.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
>
> [and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
> Church and State in general, listed below]
>
> HRSepCnS =B7 Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gro=
up/HRSepCnS/
>
> ***************************************************************
> . . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
> respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. =A0Word=
s
> take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "=
a
> page of history is worth a volume of logic." =A0New York Trust Co. v. Eisn=
er,
> 256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
> Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
> . . .
> ****************************************************************
> USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
>
> "You pilot always into an unknown future;
> facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
>
> That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
> many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
>
> It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
> plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
> almost every media turn.
>
> *****************************************************************
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
> =A0 =A0 SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
>
> http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
> ****************************************************************

As I said, our laws go back to English law, and that is what
established the laws.
The Declaration of Independence simply stated that we no longer
considered England to operate our government anymore, and that we had
good cause. It made no law, and was not intended for that purpose.
They changed the wording of it so much, as the mention of slavery
taken out, and so forth that Jefferson was heart broken. Franklin had
to have a talk with him and remind him that politics consisted of
compromise and that it was still a landmark statement. But, as you
say above, none of them had any intention of any church having a say
in the government. All they had to do was look back in history to see
the reasoning behind it. Not to mention the fact, that though some
were religious men, most looked at churches with a suspusious
attitude. Some people back then could have regarded the "Constitution"
as treason. That was not their task, it was to reword the old
Articles of Confederation. But, the Constitution won out, and seems
to have worked well for us. Regards, Ken Hogan