Group: alt.education
From: veritas
Date: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ANYONE

On Apr 2, 6:05=A0pm, bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica
wrote:
> On Apr 2, 4:56=A0pm, Peter Franks wrote:
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> > buckeye wrote:
> > > Peter Franks wrote:
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> > >> :|mizlee wrote:
> > >> :|> Wrong again. =A0The Declaration of Independence was an "internal =
memo"
> > >> :|> to the king, essentially saying "we're sick and tired, and we're =
not
> > >> :|> going to take it any more." =A0It was NOT a document of law at al=
l.
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> > >> :|What is the foundation of the law?
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> > > LOL. Why doesn't the above surprise me.
> > > The never ending questions
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> > > Foundation of what or which law?
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> > You discard the Declaration of Independence as a source because in your
> > opinion, it is not a document of law.
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> > What relevance is it that it is or isn't law? =A0We are discussing the
> > foundation of the country. =A0The Declaration of Independence was one of=

> > the founding documents, and as I pointed out, makes mention of deity.
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> > My original response stands, still unchallenged.
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> america is a jesus fucking nation, I dare you to prove different- Hide quo=
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No one is saying that the majority of people in this country are'nt
good christians and believe in their religion. What we are saying is
that the founders of this country made sure that the churches had no
say in the government and for good reason. Religions and governments
mix like oil and water, not good. They had seen from history that was
so, and there were already so many religions here, it would have been
a mess to not have freedom of religion. But, as the private letters
have been studied, the founding men of the country never had any
intention of letting any church have any say in the government.
Jefferson made that quite clear in 1802, and it is true today no
matter what the religious right says. Our government was created for
"Freedom FROM religion", not "Freedom FOR religion". Most of the
founders were deistists, although some such as Adams, Monroe, and
others were truely religious (Adams was sure that Franklin was going
straight to hell, the second he took his last breath.) they also
realized that it simply doesn't mix. So we can't make any laws about
religion. Good for us. Regards, Ken Hogan

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