alt.education

veritas wrote:
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>:|English law was the foundation of the laws of this land. Actually the
>:|man is right, this Constitution in the bill of rights says, "freedom
>:|OF religion". What the founders actually meant was "freedom FROM
>:|religion". But, as that wording would not pass of course, the first
>:|was used. But from George Washington to Jefferson, to all the writers
>:|of the Federalist Papers in which ONE sentence is devoted to religion
>:|and says, "No church shall have any say in the government". That is
>:|the only sentence you will find. Most of the founders were not going
>:|to have preachers or priests have any say in the government. Monroe
>:|was a true believer, as was Adams, but both agreed with the others.
>:|As Morris actually wrote the Constitution with the bill of rights
>:|added, he wrote a letter to Jefferson saying that as he was close to
>:|Washington, he knew he felt the same as they did. They would not
>:|allow religion in the government except on a personal basis. Most of
>:|the people who had anything to do with the Constitution, and the bill
>:|of rights felt they were doing the people a favor by excluding
>:|religion from the government. Turns out they were right. Just as a
>:|side note, I always felt that Jefferson in his heart was a stone
>:|agnostic, as if a clergyman was in the room, he would leave, as I do.
>:|Just the facts.


At least one of your "facts" is incorrect

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You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

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. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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