Group: alt.education
From: buckeye
Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ANYONE

"LoneRiver" wrote:

>:|
>:|"Peter Franks" wrote in message
>:|news:sOXHj.1763$3N1.1290@newsfe17.lga...
>:|> buckeye wrote:
>:|>> A CHALLENGE TO ANYONE I challenge you or anyone else to show, with valid
>:|>> primary souce historical
>:|>> documentation, valid secondary source documentation/commentary, cites
>:|>> etc
>:|>> by respected scholars that THIS COUNTRY was ever founded as a CHRISTIAN
>:|>> NATION. (That perhaps most of the citizens who were religious were
>:|>> Christian does not qualify) I doubt that you or anyone else would ever
>:|>> accept this challeged because it
>:|>> is a myth and therefore can''t be shown to be true.
>:|>
>:|> Christian, no.
>:|>
>:|> Deity, yes. Source: Declaration of Independence
>:|>
>:|> P.S. Please limit cross-postings to 5 newsgroups or less, per standard
>:|> USENET netiquette.
>:|
>:|You could also more specific wording like:
>:|
>:|America instead of THIS COUNTRY because this country to me refers to
>:|Australia

He wasn't the one who originally posted this challenge. I was.

The wording was fine. If a person lives in a country where "this is a
Christian nation" is seldom if ever heard it doesn't apply to them and
there is no reason for them to even reply to this thread.

"This is a Christian nation" is frequently stated by certain groups in THIS
COUNTRY. This country being the USA. A good number of people in THIS
COUNTRY who frequent the newsgroups I posted this to would recognize which
country THIS COUNTRY referred to.

BTW, based on posts in my yahoo group

HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

made by a person who has citizenship in the US and Australia but lives
primarily in Australia, you may begin to hear such comments as the one
above soon.

He has stated in several posts that American backed Radical Religious Right
influence is rapidly growing in Australia. So, in time you may have the
same problem there we have here.

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You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

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. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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