Group: alt.education
From: buckeye
Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ANYONE

Peter Franks wrote:

>:|LoneRiver wrote:
>:|>
>:|> "Peter Franks" wrote in message
>:|> news:sOXHj.1763$3N1.1290@newsfe17.lga...
>:|>> buckeye wrote:
>:|>>> A CHALLENGE TO ANYONE I challenge you or anyone else to show, with
>:|>>> valid primary souce historical
>:|>>> documentation, valid secondary source documentation/commentary,
>:|>>> cites etc
>:|>>> by respected scholars that THIS COUNTRY was ever founded as a CHRISTIAN
>:|>>> NATION. (That perhaps most of the citizens who were religious were
>:|>>> Christian does not qualify) I doubt that you or anyone else would
>:|>>> ever accept this challeged because it
>:|>>> is a myth and therefore can''t be shown to be true.
>:|>>
>:|>> Christian, no.
>:|>>
>:|>> Deity, yes. Source: Declaration of Independence
>:|>>
>:|>> P.S. Please limit cross-postings to 5 newsgroups or less, per standard
>:|>> USENET netiquette.
>:|>
>:|> You could also more specific wording like:
>:|>
>:|> America instead of THIS COUNTRY because this country to me refers to
>:|> Australia
>:|
>:|Yes, the OP could have been more clear,


Actually it was quite clear.

If a person lives in a country where "this is a Christian nation" is
seldom if ever heard it doesn't apply to them and there is no reason for
them to even reply to this thread.

"This is a Christian nation" is frequently stated by certain groups in THIS
COUNTRY. This country being the USA. A good number of people in THIS
COUNTRY who frequent the newsgroups I posted this to would recognize which
country THIS COUNTRY referred to.

>:|as well as limited his postings
>:|to /relevant/ newsgroups.

This was posted to the following newsgroups:
alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.education,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian,alt.politics.bush,alt.society.liberalism,misc.education

Which of those are not relevant?

Church state, church state separation especially in the past several
decades is very relevant in Con Law, education, politics, etc. It has
become a religious issue, a atheist issue, a conservative, moderate,
liberal issue. A republican, Independent Democrat issue.
It is an American issue.

Therefore, there isn't a single one of those groups that qualify as not
being relevant to the topic of the original post

I limit my posting to the limit that my ISP has set.


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You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS ยท Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

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. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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