Group: alt.education
From: ZerkonX
Date: Sunday, March 30, 2008 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ANYONE

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:46:56 -0400, buckeye wrote:

> I challenge you or anyone else to show, with valid primary souce
> historical documentation, valid secondary source
> documentation/commentary, cites etc by respected scholars that THIS
> COUNTRY was ever founded as a CHRISTIAN NATION. (That perhaps most of
> the citizens who were religious were Christian does not qualify)

You can not dismiss the religion of the citizens nor the religion of the
founders. You may want to re-think the ambiguous "CHRISTIAN NATION".
Maybe use something more specific like founded as a christian theocracy.

Also, making this christian specific dilutes what some, maybe most, of us
see as the original intent in that power of church, any church, was to be
kept out of the state.

For the sake of argument, if most people who founded the nation were
christian then it was, in fact, a self-evident christian nation. It does
not follow necessarily that it was founded on the principles of a
christian church, book or god.

Your position, which is seen in all your posts that I have read, also
starts with a false given. The same fallacy your opponents demand as a
given, interestingly enough. That is; a monolithic entity called
'Christianity'. There is no such thing. I do not think there was ever
such a thing. It isn't too far flung to say that this was the central
pragmatic behind the necessity to have a church/state separation to begin
with.










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